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Summary

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Here are some numbers to consider.

The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

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[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 220 points 3 days ago (20 children)

I really believe Trump is refusing calls from Trudeau like its a power move in a high stakes negotiations. Instead its an idiot, Trump, doing something dumb and an actual intelligent adult is trying to tell him how dumb he is and he won't listen.

[–] Heikki@lemm.ee 73 points 3 days ago (1 children)

His brain operates like a hamster and wheel. The issue is that the hamster died a long time ago.

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[–] Cryan24@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or he is doing what his Russian master (Putin) wants..

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, I don't understand how people are confused about this. We KNOW from his last term that the Russians have kompromat on MANY Republicans, or just outright own them. Did everyone forget all the Republican senators flying to Russia together to meet with Putin?

If you view Trump and Co.'s actions from Putin's POV, it makes a lot of sense.

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[–] Hubi@feddit.org 42 points 3 days ago (5 children)

He's acting like his allies are enemies and not countries you want to cooperate with for the common good.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 30 points 3 days ago

Cooperation is pussy liberal shit, a real American dies alone

[–] hydrashok@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 days ago

First you have to have an understanding of “the common good”, which I’m quite certain he is lacking. There is only “the good for me”.

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[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 22 points 3 days ago

A telephone call requires him to respond without his team in the loop. He's not opening himself up to that.

Since taking office I'm getting more and more convinced that he's in two modes. Teleprompter mode, where his words have been agreed upon by his team, and twitter rant, where he's just spouting his own bile.

He never speaks candidly in person since winning the election. Even the press room statement after the air crash was a prepared piece with all the hate baked in. Sure he took some questions but they were predictable and mainly deflected.

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[–] Corno@lemm.ee 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Good.

Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you're threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.

[–] Drusas@fedia.io 20 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I doubt he thinks he's the good guy and I'm certain he doesn't care.

[–] __Lost__@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago

Look at his official president photo, he wants to be an evil mastermind

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He's the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you'd expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that's good.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 4 points 2 days ago

Not any other nations, some of your closest allies and trade partners. It's fucking bonkers...

[–] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 99 points 3 days ago (10 children)

If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

As the other posters have pointed out, we're already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don't want to be part of the US - our government actually works.

I looked over the official list, and it's stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

According to this (see first 2 minutes), they are specifically trying to target red states in hopes of getting republicans to try and intervene with trump.

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[–] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 3 days ago (16 children)

This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.

It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Trump's base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.

Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 107 points 3 days ago (8 children)

There is nothing other countries can really do about this except impose tariffs in kind. When american inflation goes up I hope Americans put stickers on gas pumps and more eating "Trump did this"

[–] ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I've considered making some for exactly this purpose. This biggest hurdle is I would feel bad vandalizing the pumps and forcing someone else to clean up after me.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

Don't feel bad for the gas companies. Also he put an exception on "energy". That's only getting 10%.

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (5 children)

If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.

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[–] Blackout@fedia.io 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Who would risk investing millions into a factory when you have no idea when your materials could be randomly taxed/tariffed. Was literally working on factory plans in Troy, MI when this put a permanent hold on it. Relying on Quebec aluminum like many others. No sense continuing if we have to use Chinese aluminum, just expand the China facility instead.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I work in automation in SEMI. My idiot conservative boss is convinced that this will help us by bringing manufacturing from Mexico.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Does he not know about the Mexico Tariffs? Is he planning to just become Mexican when the USA goes to shit?

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[–] Monstrosity@lemm.ee 62 points 3 days ago

He was talking directly to the American People, as he mentioned right before this quote.

But it seems American media is invested in keeping the American people uninvested. Like this is between two leaders and we just get to watch.

[–] pip@slrpnk.net 52 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

It's baffling how foreign relations 101 gets completely thrown out the window by this shining idiot. It is SO important to establish good trade and relations with your bordering countries, and what does this guy do? The exact opposite.

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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

Please! We're in dire need of consequences.

[–] blakenong@lemmings.world 23 points 3 days ago

Good. Hit us with your best shot. We deserve it.

[–] fakir@lemm.ee 30 points 3 days ago

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

[–] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 39 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So be it.

I can't wait for the layoffs at my UPS hub. I told them it was gonna happen before the election. His shit business tactics will lead to economic devastation and was poo pooed and hand waved away. Let the hammer fall. Maybe it will wake up people.

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[–] mtdyson_01@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, Trump has already thought of that. No one knows more about driving businesses into the ground than him and he is still rich. It doesn't matter that he couldn't come up with cash to pay bonds, he knows more about business and negotiations than anyone. Trust in the well thought out plan!

Trump plays the long game! He absolutely negotiated as he puts it "a very bad deal" six years ago with Canada and Mexico so he could come back and stick it to them now. The brilliance, the genius behind it is mind boggling. It just goes and shows everyone how petty and greedy Canada and Mexico are for retaliating because they just hate Trump.

/S

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