I imagine the steam deck will be capable of emulating switch 2 titles nearly immediately, so there’s little reason to buy it. They really need to make their hardware comparable to their software (minus the notoriously awful Japan™ netcode)

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Emulating Switch 2 games on the Steam Deck would be a challenge. Even though it's on an outdated process node, I think it's fair to say it's in the same class of hardware as a Steam Deck (which is 3 years old at this point).

Deck 2, though...

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[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

With the Switch 2 announcement, it's kind of clear that they aren't even trying to be a tech company anymore. While not every last one of their consoles released was a true innovation, it did feel like something that was built into part of their brand. Now we just have the Switch 2 which is mostly what you'd expect with some decent QoL upgrades.

Nintendo is pursuing the walled garden approach. You're barely even buying a console anymore, a lot of this hardware has more or less converged. What you're buying is access to the cultivated ecosystem. Like everything else these days, they entice you in with the big, recognizable brands and hope there's enough else to keep you there. Emulators straight pierce that veil and it's why they went so hard on them.

I'm not criticizing (too heavily) the people that choose to hold on to the franchises they love, but once you step outside and choose alternatives, there's very little to bring you back. Pokemon lost me a few gens ago, honestly not the biggest Zelda fan, and Mario alone won't do it for me. Metroid and Starfox are scattershot ... Personally I'll stick with the Steam Deck and wait for Switch 2 emulation to roll around. And if it doesn't, there are just so many other games to play these days.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

. You’re barely even buying a console anymore, a lot of this hardware has more or less converged. What you’re buying is access to the cultivated ecosystem.

Bingo. In an age where most people's phones have better hardware than the Switch, it's all about access to the walled garden instead of hardware.

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[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't think Nintendo ever tried to be a tech company. They have always been a game company first and foremost. If they were ever a kind of tech company, the closest analogy would be Apple, another company that focused on consumer electronics.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So when they shut down Ryujinx and Yuzu, was it basically "Stop running this emulator or we will ruin your lives with legal bills"?

[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Iirc, and take this with a grain of salt, ryujinx actually got paid by Nintendo to stop development.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That's a rumor. All we know is that they talked with the dev behind closed doors and he deleted everything related to Ryujinx afterwards. Sure, they could have paid him but it's just as likely that they just threatened him. Let's not forget how Nintendo made its money.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah, that's why I've been exclusively pirating and emulating your switch games, and will continue to do so

Nintendo never gets my money again, and it's been a better experience so far doing so

[–] jared@mander.xyz 14 points 2 days ago

Fuck Nintendo!!!

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No shit, it's been case law since the 90s (Bleem, Connectix). The recent cases haven't been about emulation, but decryption keys lifted from the BIOS.

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[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I was a life long Nintendo fan boy. I have every system excluding the virtual boy cuz of the headaches, and the Wii u because I was under employed when it released. I stopped buying Nintendo after Gary Bowser, their software is janky, and bad for 2000's level of web portal. I had already complained to Nintendo as a long term investor, and instead of innovating their software and hardware, they litigate away anything that might be considered competition and sue into poverty anyone that alters the devices. I never altered my switch, but I stand on the side of the hackers because Nintendo desperately needed to create a quality software core for their switch family. They want their software to be an extremely basic game launcher, and in modern software terms, that's just incompetent. I stopped buying Nintendo because Nintendo stopped innovating their software, started litigating their profits, and relied solely on old worn out IP instead of creating something new and fresh. You know how many new games are gonna launch on switch 2? Less than 5. Know what one of the first 10 games is gonna be? Mario. Want another? Probably a racing game that's another rehash but has something blandly new and shiny, like space ship racing with gerbils(instead of diddy Kong racing, or jet ski racing etc). Nintendo has no new IP ideas, and while I was mostly OK suffering through the tired old crap to get to whatever gameplay innovation they made, they seem to have abandoned the gameplay innovation entirely, and are just suing people to force them to play their games the way they want, even if they already received money for the game and system. Whatever they might have in store for the switch 2, so long as Gary Bowser is living in debt to Nintendo, I will never purchase another Nintendo product new, ever again, and I will only purchase used if they have an absolute banger of a game, but I'm only buying that used as well. No profit to Nintendo. I can buy off eBay.

[–] sirico@feddit.uk 10 points 2 days ago

Back to the forks bois

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