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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"

Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503

Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!

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[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 89 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Taking the time to remove Google, embraced proton mail ... Maybe it's time to just write letters and send meme post cards.

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[–] loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I thought they are based in Switzerland

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[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 61 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I see a lot of good discussion here. I've been on proton for years now, using my own domain. While true that Andy is one of 5 board members, and it's a nonprofit etc, these statements are raising hairs on my neck, personally.

Does anyone have a good guide on problems associated with self-hosting email?

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[–] MTK@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago (9 children)

I wonder what is the percentage of nuts tech ceos.

Seems to be abnormally high

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Rich people tend not be good people in general

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[–] JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world 102 points 3 days ago (65 children)

Let's not get carried away. The scope of the comment is pretty narrow if you read it closely. This is one member of a 5-person board that also includes Tim Berners-Lee. The foundation structure is also a protection against abuses.

[–] ShotDonkey@lemmy.world 92 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yes you are right, and no you are not. It is concerning and something to stay vigilent about in the upcoming times.

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[–] emmy67@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yeah this really makes me doubt the security of the service.

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[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 62 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Why does he think Trump is against big tech when he's working side by side with Musk?

[–] ghurab@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago

He doesn't. it's just lube to help his customers swallow his bullshit

[–] plixel@programming.dev 55 points 3 days ago (24 children)

I literally just switched over from Google a few months ago and finally got all settled in. Just great. Does anyone know of any good alternative? I know Tuta exists, are there other options?

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[–] 7112@lemmy.world 90 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Sad. The way tech companies are changing stripes, we are about to hit a surveillance state by summer

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 67 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The US are a surveillance state already. But I guess it could get even worse.

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[–] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 77 points 3 days ago (14 children)

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, and that applies to tech. I pay for Proton and this is disappointing af but not shocking. Corporations and wannabe billionaires always fold to fascism.

Gonna start looking around at alternative email services to consider but I use my Proton email everywhere, so switching away is going to suck.

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[–] quant@leminal.space 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I don't want to mix tech with politics, but what in the actual fuck?

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

How is it possible to not mix tech and politics?

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[–] dan00@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

Andy is sad that he didn’t taste that sweet sweet cheeseburger and diet coke cock.

[–] DegenerationIP@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

What is a good alternative for Mail? I'm mostly for Proton because of Data security and Mail aliases. But this move is actually concerning.

Yes, I know the background behind it.

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[–] tomatol@lemm.ee 61 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Very disappointing that this is the CEO and founder of Proton. I'll be moving my stuff elsewhere and deleting my account this week.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Theres the real problem with repugs. They think they are the "little guy"s

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[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 days ago

Fox and Roku, everyone's two favourite small companies!

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Burned my accounts, moved to Tuta.

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[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 52 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Sure, yeah, anti-big tech.

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[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He went after big tech as a punishment for fact checking the bullshit coming from his administration and his followers. That was it.

Now that all big tech has turned away from democrats (probably as punishment for their antitrust lawsuits), we will see a much different perspective from the Trump administration.

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[–] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too bad, I was considering their service when my VPN service ran out. Not excluding them outright, but will have to keep a eye on it.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Regrading Update 2, maybe the other board members can push his guy out? I'm paid for to the end of the year, so I'll wait it out a bit. I'd rather not jump ship, only to have that ship also go pro fascist too.

[–] radioactivefunguy@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (12 children)

I literally signed up for their VPN last night since NordVPN doesn't offer port forwarding. . . Oh well, I can 30 day guarantee it and get mullvad I guess. All I lost was a bit of time setting it up in all my containers, and any respect I had for Proton

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[–] VARXBLE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fuck me, I now feel like a clown for taking advantage of that lifetime subscription I bought a couple of months back.

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[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago (11 children)

Self hosting is better these days.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (16 children)

Another tech dipshit, whose wealth allows him to exist outside the realm of reality, bending the knee to an anti-democratic felon rapist so he can get some handouts.

Pathetic loser.

Growing up, if you had told me half or more of America would end up elevating a rapist to the presidency and prostrating themselves at his feet, I'd have laughed you out of the room. This nation has sunk LOW.

NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 46 points 3 days ago (4 children)

NordVPN is superior in every way. If you have ProtonVPN, dump it and swap to Nord.

Have we learned nothing of the whole "spend millions upon millions on YouTube sponsorships" debacle? Nord absolutely is hiding something from us.

If you need to forward ports, AirVPN seems the best right now. Otherwise, Mullvad.

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[–] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I wouldn’t say he embraced Trump, I’d say he is pro-breaking big tech, since that would probably help Proton.

Bernie Sanders even came out and said “hey, if Trump wants to cap credit card interest rates, I’m with him on that.”

Trump says a lot of shit to appeal to working class people. I don’t disagree with reminding him of what he said and holding him to those things, if he’s now going to be president.

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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 41 points 3 days ago

Yes I'm sure he'll crack down hard on all the tech companies that are giving him millions of dollars and kissing his feet...

What a moron.

[–] a4ng3l@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago (8 children)

I can understand being fine with a nomination that aligns with his personal interests but from there the journey to « party of small people » likely takes a convoluted path.

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