You know China can just buy your data, right? It's easier than entering a monopoly and beating the dominant player.
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Or.... they're all propaganda machines for someone.
Americans when China banned their social media:
China is banning our amazing free speech platforms. Censorship! Look at our free speech!
Americans now:
We need to censor social media! Chinese propaganda cannot be allowed to spread! This is a security risk! America must own every social media platform!
No US social media site would ever be a thinly-concealed arm of state propaganda..
Last panel almost has you thinking it's not all corpo social media.
Bummed that it came across that way because I absolutely do not feel like that.
That's right, Americans should only use US government approved domestic spyware/propaganda platforms. Get rekt lmao. 🤡
The TikTok ban is something Mark Zuckerberg lobbied for. It’s not a good thing.
This comic is propaganda and misinformation.
Biden has my wife and kids locked up in a political prison, if I don’t spread anti china propaganda via memes on my lemmy instance, he’s going to kill them
Show us how it’s not Chinese spyware
It's not that it isn't spyware, it's that all social media is. If the US had a problem with spyware, they would make a sweeping laws about spyware. Not just target one platform. This is racism pure and simple.
Ok, but that has nothing to do with the comment OP’s comment. I agree with what you said up until the last sentence. Racism? Lmfao. So the Biden admin are all racists too? It has nothing to do with race. No nation-state is going to let another nation-state spy on their own citizens. Race has nothing to do with it.
We already had in place Protecting Americans' Data from Foreign Adversaries Act, and the American Data Privacy and Protection Act. These acts prevent companies from giving US consumer data to foreign adversaries. Why did we make another law specifically naming tiktok?
Also, this is a fun watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8dctPC3c4A
OMG he literally said the thing! 
Cringey as hell.
Show us how it is.
That’s easy. But the comment OP is probably a tanky anyway and will deny or rationalize all evidence.
Funny name for someone whos actually glowing. Tell the alphabet boys to kick rocks.
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People love to shit on Tiktok. But I really enjoy it. It's not for everyone, and that's fine. Short form content is a lot. It can be overwhelming for many, me included sometimes. But Tiktok is way better than Instagram reels and youtube shorts. The content on there feels more authentic and interesting, I go on tiktok, and I generally feel like I'm learning and challenging my perspective. Tiktok's algorithm doesn't quash leftist sentiment. Tiktok actually had lots of people talking about the genocide in Palestine. Sure, it's corporate. It also has alt right pipelines on it; it helped Trump win because his team utilized it. But that's true of all the other social media platforms, too. Which are also Spyware for the us gov, and us corporations. I mean, this take about Tiktok being Chinese spyware so it's a good thing we got rid of it, just so totally misses the point.
I don't remember much political shit with vine. Just silly videos that didn't reek of trying to game the algorithm to make money. It makes me think of how tablets failed originally but then apple made them and everyone wanted to pay to lick the turtleneck guy's asshole.
Where's Saint Peter pulling the lever to send it to hell?
Yeah, just the Chinese aps do that shit. Regular Western apps always protect your data and would never misuse it in any way.
They want the Chinese to buy it from them! /s
I don't understand why the response isn't just stronger privacy laws on this.
We've already banned Tiktok and 50+ other apps after a border clash.
When will our country start our own mainstream social media networks and get to ban Fb, Insta & X(Formally known as Twitter) which are USAmerican companies that push USAmerican propaganda and spies on Indian citizens?
"Push propaganda" [citation needed]
- Wikipedia isn't a citation.
- What does that random dude have to do with anything?
The winner of 22.94% of the votes in the 2024 Romanian election, Calin Georgescu, is a far-right candidate that said that a fascist dictator is a national hero
His place as the person who got most votes came as a surprise to many romanians, which barely heard of him. His advertising was mostly done through TikTok. The election was canceled because of claims that his growth was unnatural
The 2024 election was also the first election this century where the political party PSD hasnt gotten in the top 2
TikTok played a huge role in the popularity of a pro-fascist, pro-russian, anti-EU independent candidate
Source: i live in Romania
So they just threw out the results of a free and fair election because one candidate was just too good at social media campaigning? Democracy ftw
As far as i know, the election was delayed to figure out if he would be disqualified for not respecting the constitution
- Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR): TikTok Law Is an Attempt to Censor, Not a Warning to Big Tech (Emphasis original)
[NYT’s Cecilia] Kang’s thesis [link] was premised on years’ worth of media and policymaker fearmongering that TikTok user data was susceptible to surveillance by the Chinese government (BuzzFeed News, 6/17/22; Forbes, 10/20/22; Guardian, 11/7/22). According to Kang’s colleagues, the law’s enactment was prompted by “concerns that the Chinese government could access sensitive user data” (New York Times, 4/26/24). In 2023, Montana Gov. Greg Gianforte sought to prohibit TikTok throughout his state on the grounds that “the Chinese Communist Party” was “collecting US users’ personal, private and sensitive information” (Montana Free Press, 5/17/23). (Gianforte’s attempt was later thwarted by a federal judge.)
If such fears were officials’ genuine motivation, one could hope that broader data-privacy regulation might follow. Yet, as the Times neglected to mention, the spying accusations are tenuous—and deeply cynical. As even US intelligence officials concede, apprehensions about China’s access to TikTok user data are strictly hypothetical (Intercept, 3/16/24). And, despite its bombshell headline “Analysis: There Is Now Some Public Evidence That China Viewed TikTok Data,” CNN (6/8/23) cautioned that said evidence—a sworn statement from a former ByteDance employee—“remains rather thin.”
Given their dubious nature, it’s hard to see these data-privacy claims as anything other than a pretext for the US to throttle TikTok. By forcing either divestment or a ban, the US, at least in theory, wins: It transfers a tremendously lucrative and influential company into its own hands, or it prevents that company from serving as a platform—albeit one with plenty of problems—on which people can engage in and learn from discourses that are critical of US empire.
- CNN, 2022: TikTok moves US users’ data to Oracle servers to address security concerns
- US private equity firms own more of TikTok than anyone. WSJ: What Is TikTok Worth? Some Say $20 Billion, Others Say $100 Billion. The CEO is Singaporean, Shou Zi Chew, and the VP is American, Michael Beckerman.
- Paris Marx: The TikTok ban is all about preserving US power