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[–] the_strange@feddit.org 155 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] Allero@lemmy.today 19 points 1 month ago

Of course there's always a relevant XKCD

Love it

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

It took too long for me to realize it was the same data.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Unless you're in a college statistics course, then if your line is off by a pixel your grade drops a full letter.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you're in a college statistics course and you're doing graphs by hand and not generated entirely be statistics software, the skills you're learning are useless anyway.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

My bitterness lingers from the 90s.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair, I'm snarky because plenty of colleges (and way too many high schools) still do this shit because it's not about the knowledge, it's about the signalling to employers that the student will make a good cog in their machine.

To anyone struggling in a stats course: real data science is programming, not math. If you're on Lemmy there is a good chance you're a better data scientist than your hack of a teacher.

[–] echolalia@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

...my stats professor is a programmer, though. Are you not talking about high level statistics courses? A lot has changed since R and Rstudio has been developed. (It's FOSS!). All of my assignments are either proofs in LaTeX or questions that involve programming.

( If you're in a stats course and using excel, you are learning stats for babies. Your class has business majors in it.)

[–] callouscomic@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Memories of my professor in early 2010s teaching us to do it by hand in case the power at work ever goes out and we don't wanna get fired ...... based on his 90s work experience.

He was fun though.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And make sure you use linear regression, nobody thinks linear regression is bad.

[–] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah that would be bad practice, industry standard is to run all the tests simultaneously and if something comes out statistically significant make up a narrative then try to split it into 4 papers.

[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Tell that to the reviewers who constantly ask my wife why she didn't do linear regression in her analysis. She rages against linear regression constantly. But some people swear by it, which i think is weird.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Folks in observation and analytics are gonna be real mad when they realize you're giving away their secrets.

[–] observantTrapezium@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 month ago

Just saw the scatter plot and line and my mind immediately screamed "bullshit" without knowing what this was about at all. Only then I read the text.

[–] photonic_sorcerer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Look at that choice of axis scale tho

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

Could be valid. Now if it had been logarithmic the pro tip might still be true, since many don't look at the axis either.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 28 points 1 month ago

Label your x and y, you dirty heathen. Such offense, you're lucky you're not catching a b&.

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What's the r² on this, like ... 0.3 ish?

Less?

[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

My guess is lower. I'd put the correlation at about -.35 to -.45, so that'd correspond to an R² of .1225 to .2025. But eyeballing correlations is hard.

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Assuming it's a correction line, I don't think you can tell from the slope of that line alone as the clustering will matter and correlations are finicky. Now, if it was a regression coefficient, that sexy line can be calculated just by looking at it (although we'd want to know if it was significant, lol).

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

I was assuming its a simple linear regression fit, and attempting to eyeball the r², haha.

[–] MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Delete enough data points and it will be 1. You'll only have two data points, but you'll have bragging rights.

[–] azi@mander.xyz 15 points 1 month ago

Actual graph used to inform government decisions

Scatter plot correlating parked vehicles at supermarkets with the store's number of employees. There's only two data points and the trend line is drawn in the exact opposite direction of what they show (line says the store with more employees had more cars, the data shows otherwise). Page 602 of the Parking Generation Manual 5th Edition

[–] sepi@piefed.social 6 points 1 month ago

Nobody questioned Hubble so why would they question you?

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 5 points 1 month ago

Zoom out so it looks better.