this post was submitted on 27 Nov 2024
2 points (53.1% liked)

World News

32370 readers
585 users here now

News from around the world!

Rules:

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
top 13 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 2 points 4 hours ago

French mining company Eramet and the Indonesian government is placing an entire population at risk of genocide

Fify

[–] bl4kers@lemmy.ml 28 points 17 hours ago (3 children)

That's a pretty ridiculous headline imo

  • Nickel is used for lots of things
  • "EV obsession" is not a thing unless "ICE obsession" exists, and both sound ridiculous
  • The mining companies are responsible for their own actions, not consumers at large
  • Indonesia is letting this occur and could theoretically step in at any time as far as I can tell
  • Genocides are always on "an entire population" so that phrase is meaningless
[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

We definitely have an obsession for cars in North America and "EV obsession" is just an extension of that.

[–] bl4kers@lemmy.ml 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

I guess it depends on how the word is used. I think of obsession as strictly a personal thing, and almost everyone I know wants 0 or 1 car because it's difficult to get around without it. I'd consider that practical instead on excessive. Though I guess you could argue wanting your one car to be bigger or more expensive is excessive

Don't get me wrong, the culture definitely favors cars over pedestrians. I just don't think I'd use the word obsessive to represent that relationship

Edit: spelling

[–] wellfill@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean by your last point. Genocide only being on whole population. Where did you get this definition.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 6 hours ago

The word. Genus-cide.

It's the killing of a genus, a race.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I'd love to understand the definition of "uncontacted" that includes them posing for photos and protesting in front of bulldozers

[–] Garibaldee@lemm.ee 3 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Well here you go, you could have clicked the link in the first paragraph of the article if you were so curious, but nonetheless

https://www.survivalinternational.org/tribes/honganamanyawa

As with uncontacted peoples the world over, forced contact has been disastrous for the Hongana Manyawa. Between the 1970s and 1990s, many Hongana Manyawa were forcibly contacted, evicted from the rainforest and taken to new villages by the government and missionaries. This immediately exposed them to terrible outbreaks of diseases to which the Hongana Manyawa had no immunity and which they still refer to as “the plague”. In a two-month period, in one village alone, it is estimated that between 50 and 60 people died, almost one person every day.

The uncontacted Hongana Manyawa have made it clear – time and time again – that they do not want to be contacted, to settle or have outsiders come into their rainforest. They are very much aware of the dangers which forced contact brings. As with the uncontacted Sentinelese people of India, it is little wonder that they have been known to defend their lands by shooting arrows at those who force their way in.

[–] TheOctonaut@mander.xyz 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I did read it. Having lived in Malaysia, it looked like every interaction with orang asli tribes. How does "forcibly contacted" not contradict "uncontacted"? Are we doing "contacted status identity" now?