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Following @lemmy was a bad idea. It's literally every comment with subpar context. Which is fine, the mental models of twitter and reddit are different, after all, but it's not digestible from the stream as it's just an excessive amount of noise.

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[–] Compgeek@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Do you think better threading in Mastodon might help? If comments showed up as threaded replies and only top level posts got their own thread, would you engage cross-platform more? The style of post is different, but I feel if they felt more in the style of the platform you are viewing from then it could lead to some interesting discussions!

[–] Buttermilk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, not sure how easy it would be to change, but if it just didn't boost user replies, it would actually be pretty solid on mastodon.

[–] Compgeek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m still figuring out how it works, but seems Mastodon doesn’t sync the history too well, and only stays in sync if at least one person on the instance is following the community. Maybe the old ones are delayed sync, or someone that was subscribed then unsubbed before another took over? It’s getting the Snoo hug of death at the moment, so I’m expecting weird behaviour!

[–] Buttermilk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah that makes sense. I'm mostly just poking around to see how it reacts, no real expectations of it working well. Really considering the walled gardens of each of the technologies this replaces, any amount of connection is really icing on the cake!

I haven't tried it myself, but I remember someone mentioning things like peertube videos being sharable on mastodon, then replying to the peertube post in mastodon could add a reply to the peertube page and vise versa. Obviously the reply structure of lemmy is quite different, but it is cool to imagine the ways interoperability could evolve with more attention.

[–] farcaller@hdev.im 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Compgeek absolutely. Or needs two things: filter lists (that's mostly client side) to separate the toot stream (check up on often) vs however the subreddits on lemmy are called (check once in a while in bulk). And then you need a list of posts only from the former with an option to drill in.

I know, those are still different paradigms. It's just weird that I can authenticate to so many things online as my google id and yet I must have different identities for the “federated” crowd.

[–] Compgeek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Will be interesting to see where it lands!

I agree, I see you’re running your own instance, I’m holding off on that until something like SSO comes online for the Fediverse and I can run my own ‘identity server’ to log into whatever apps I wish.

‘Communities’ is the Lemmy term for subreddits, although I think it gets referred to as a ‘Group’ in Mastodon and a ‘Magazine’ in kbin. Early days I can tell, maybe as things get more established a unified language will emerge.

[–] farcaller@hdev.im 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Compgeek oauth for fediverse. Oh boy, that sounds like so much fun /s

[–] Compgeek@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Not an easy problem to solve by any stretch, which is why I assume core functionality is the focus before doing it, but better than the multiple persona issue we have at the moment.

In my early exploration I have 1 Lemmy and 1 Mastodon account, but all my eggs are in one basket should it go offline. If I wanted to have choice of even 2 instances for each service, I’m now looking at 4 ‘handles’.

Not a fun problem to solve, but long term it’s not a great problem to have. At least if I can run my own identity server I don’t need to trust a single entity outside of me with my online identity.

[–] Edo78@feddit.it 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not 100% sure about the terminology ... Are you subscribed to the community in Lemmy? Are you following the community on another fediverse service? Are you following the community through the RSS?

[–] farcaller@hdev.im 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@Edo78 I’ve followed @lemmy over mastodon. I guess that's the second case?

[–] Edo78@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I just tried to follow a lemmy user in mastodon because I can't find a way to follow a lemmy user in lemmy itself. I'd never thought to subscribe to a whole community from mastodon and judging from your experience I was right. To me it's better to subscribe to a lemmy community in a lemmy instance this way all the contents are given a better structure

[–] PascalSausage@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

I haven’t tried it yet but yeah it does seem a bit janky from what I’ve seen. Federating content across platforms is nice and all but displaying it in a rational way is another issue entirely.

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