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Linux is a family of open source Unix-like operating systems based on the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on September 17, 1991 by Linus Torvalds. Linux is typically packaged in a Linux distribution (or distro for short).

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SystemD (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by Tundra@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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Ive been runing Debian 12 (kde) since bookworm was released and am loving it.

I have recently discovered Devuan which seems to be Debian without systemd - what is the benefit of removing this init system?

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[–] nakal@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

SysV init is crap, but so is systemd as init process. One example is that an admin needs to know why the system does not boot properly. In this case the kernel messages help. systemd is not helping here.

I've currently one problem that I need to solve, but I need 2 people, one to make a video, the other to press Ctrl+Alt+Del to capture an error message that appears for 0,1s after sending the key sequence, when my PC does not boot. This is crap! Why the hell it does not boot occasionally, I have no idea and I've been an Linux/Unix admin for 25 years now. Why I cannot find it? Of course because systemd doesn't even log it!

This is brand new when systemd appeared. I loved to see the kernel messages to full extent...

[–] Frederic@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Try MX Linux it's based on Debian. MX23 is based on Debian 12. You can boot with or without systemd as you please. Great distro!

[–] w2qw@aussie.zone 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't we have this thread yesterday?

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Link please

[–] w2qw@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I swear I saw one but no idea how to properly search lemmy. Here's todays thread though https://aussie.zone/post/1515282?scrollToComments=true

[–] Arigion@feddit.de -1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

My problem with systemd is that since I'm practically forced to use it that it's flakey in starting services after boot (independent of service and distro). Since systemd I had to install monit to check if all services came up. Didn't had that problem before. Or I forgot, it's been a while....

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[–] wolandark@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

devuan is a work of art. Artix and Devuan are both the only distros I'd turn to for stability and not having to deal with systemdoom's mess

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