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I've been sent this article about privacy on Lemmy and I would like to have more opinions about it.

I come from the Matrix world where there is no history deletion neither but at least everything is encrypted.

Can we hope anything about privacy on Lemmy ?
Especially with all the attention it's getting right now.

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[–] 3migo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Arguably worse for privacy than Reddit"

This poster clearly has some sort of vendetta against Lemmy and/or its creators with the comments on politics, etc.

Reddit takes your activity and packages/sells your data to advertisers. Lemmy does not. To say Lemmy is worse than Reddit for privacy is just not true.

I'd take that post with a hefty grain of salt.

[–] Generator@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago

This poster clearly has some sort of vendetta against Lemmy and/or its creators with the comments on politics, etc.

It does https://join-lemmy.org/news/2023-06-17_-_Update_from_Lemmy_after_the_Reddit_blackout

Not taking sides, but saying that is worse than Reddit is more a vendeta than something else

[–] venoft@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

On lemmy (and mastodon, kbin, etc) it seems like it's extremely easy for a third party company to datamine everyone's data, even deleted ones. Federated software is terrible for privacy because it creates hundreds of backups to the federated instances. Any one of those instances can decide not to actually delete anything when requested.

[–] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Just like on reddit, treat everything here as public. Do not post things that you want to be private to either site; this goes for literally any website you don't own.

[–] underisk@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Any claims made about privacy on a social media site, especially ones run by private companies or individuals, should be met with extreme skepticism. The reality of privacy on the internet is that it is not something you can get by picking a different service, it is something you must constantly maintain with vigilance and an up to date understanding of infosec practices.

[–] CookieJarObserver@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article is written by a absolute idiot...

And the comments are even more so.

[–] CookieJarObserver@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

So for the start.

  1. Lemmy isn't own by anyone its open source and open development

  2. Even though the original dev might or might not be politically questionable, instances like exploding heads (literally nazis) and instances like lemmygrad (literally stalinists and genocide deniers) are here, polar opposites, if the devs would have had political intentions they could hard code it into the system, they didn't.

  3. This is a forum, you post and write to the world, the world listens and doesn't forget, lemmy offers dms but also offers a matrix link directly next to it for safer communication. (there is no encryption so far because it would be completely useless for most things here)

  4. The deletion of content is currently not sufficient, but they apparently work on that, but at the moment other things are more important for it to function properly (mod tools, script efficiency...)

It reads like someone has just discovered that if you toss out public data on the public internet via federation it becomes public and out of your direct control.

That's how all federated services basically work: once it is relayed to someone else's server, there's essentially nothing you can do to force deletion.

Easy example: if you send me an email, but delete it from your sent messages, did you delete the message I got?