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Rockstar Games' servers have been under heavy fire from massive DDoS attacks in recent days, causing widespread login and connectivity issues for players of GTA Online. These attacks come in the wake of Rockstar’s recent implementation of BattlEye, a new anti-cheat system designed to crack down on in-game cheating, sparking backlash from a segment of the player base. Protesters, unhappy with the new system, have resorted to using distributed denial-of-service (DDoS) attacks to disrupt the servers, escalating tensions between the gaming giant and its community.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Sounds like it's working

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine being such a butthurt little pussy that you DDoS a video game because you’re not allowed to cheat it.

Outside of the political spectrum, I cannot imagine a more pathetic type of person.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Just to explain the completely warranted deluge of downvotes to you: Using Linux doesn't mean that you're cheating and the anti-cheat solution they're using has Linux support, they simply opted to not enable it. I'm not in the loop when it comes to GTAV but usually cheating software isn't even available for Linux.

[–] Soup@lemmy.cafe 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The onus isn’t on them to cater to everyone. If it can’t be used using Linux, deal with it like a grown up and find something else to do.

But you’re not going to justify DDoS attacking a company because you don’t like that you’re excluded from their product.

These people need to grow the fuck up. The real world doesn’t give a shit about what they think they’re owed- which is nothing by the way.

This shit just makes me hate the arrogance of Linux users that much more.

Oh, and that you all think that downvotes are relevant to a discussion shows your immaturity on the topic. My opinion isn’t popular because it’s nuanced. And everyone within and outside of lemmy know damn well that this platform hates anything that doesn’t paint in the colors of black or white. So… it’s expected to be downvoted. If I posted this anywhere else- it’s be a mature discussion.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

The onus isn’t on them to cater to everyone.

Gazillions of people have been playing on Linux, in particular on the Steam Deck, for ages. Those are paying customers. They pulled the plug on that without warning and without need, technical or otherwise, people are pissed. Depending on jurisdiction, Rockstar might be in for at least refunds.

I don't condone ddos'ing either and what I also don't condone is you saying "oh the only reason people are pissed is because they can't cheat". Now that is, if I'm charitable, ignorant, and allthewhile you have the gall to accuse others of arrogance. Nuanced my ass to be that you'd first have to acknowledge basic contextual facts about the matter. Getting downvoted is also not "the ignorant sheeple not understanding your brilliance". Get your head out of your arse and look in the mirror.

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[–] Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm conflicted here

On one hand, I play GTA Online, and the amount of hackers is getting out of hand. Most are chill, some are extremely annoying and blow up everyone in the lobby with 800 million explosions a second. In this case, I'm annoyed that I can't play it and glad there's anti cheat.

On the other hand, I didn't realize that EAC would prevent Linux users from playing entirely. I'm not a Linux user (yet) myself, but that really sucks. Also, rockstar is extremely predatory with the shark cards (it was worse with Red Dead Online!) so they do kinda deserve it as some form of karma for being terrible

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, I didn't realize that EAC would prevent Linux users from playing entirely.

For the most part any game that "won't run on linux" totally would if it wasn't for the anticheat not working (or being supported) on linux, that's usually the downfall. For instance Destiny runs fine, but if they see you're using linux they ban your acct because fuck you that's why. Tbf, even if the anticheat would work it's usually kernel level spyware that linux users mostly refuse to run, so eh.

[–] slaveOne@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I believe it's BattlEye, not EAC

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[–] prettydarknwild@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

i never liked the online to begin with so, x

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't play these games or really any game that needs anti cheat. What's the controversy? I assume the anti cheat is awful?

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

While I haven't looked into this particular anti-cheat; they frequently prevent Linux users from playing altogether, ban users due to false positives, and sometimes even gain/require access to data entirely unrelated to gaming, such as your personal documents or even browser data (cookies, history, passwords/tokens, etc) as many of them contain Rootkits

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, personal documents? What in the ever loving fuck. Jeez, no I don't want to play your game so bad I need to prove it with a passport.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, they aren't specifically targeting this data.

Rootkits give the software unrestricted access to all the data on the computer. You then trust that they don't use that access for anything nefarious... Aswell as trusting there's no bugs/vulnerabilities in that software that give a third party access to that data.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 0 points 2 months ago

Ah, my misunderstanding - kernel level anti-cheat is also a bit bizarre tbh, like people really really don't understand the level of control they're handing over to random games companies.

[–] Nindelofocho@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

On top of that they dont really seem to actually stop cheating. Im sure they reduce it but games with anti cheat still deal with a ton of cheaters

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago

What's happened is GTA Online suddenly switched to using BattlEye for it's anti-cheating. And this broke Steam Deck compatibility suddenly. Now, this is bad enough but reports state that BattlEye will work with the Steam Deck, and all Rockstar needs to do is just send a message to BattlEye and it'll just work. But Rockstar doesn't seem to be interested in sending that email.

[–] MSids@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

At one point I had been playing GTA V online pretty consistently when I had a cheater start targeting me. It was pretty frustrating and after 30 minutes of that I gave up and closed down for the day. I shifted my attention to other games after that. I definitely get that they want to stop cheaters - cheaters ruin the fun for others. It's a shame that the new anti cheat has made it so that Steam Deck players are stuck unable to play online.

[–] ccdfa@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

The very annoying this is that BattleEye supports Linux, rockstar has just apparently decided not to ask for that from BattleEye

[–] TheFin@leminal.space 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So what your saying is the cheaters are pissed off

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

That is what they are suggesting but its the linux users who are pissed.

[–] polle@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago (6 children)

Iam out of the loop. What kind of cheats are available in gta online?

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