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It feels like every few months there's a new tech "revolution" being hyped up as the future. Besides AI, what’s the most overhyped trend in tech right now? For me, it’s the constant buzz around the metaverse.

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[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

It wasn’t a very long initial question (only a few sentences), but you somehow missed the only qualifier to the whole thing, “…Besides AI,” within that short intro.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago

Guilty, you're right.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It is kind of misleading to leave it out of the title and hide it in the middle of the post. "Besides AI" could've easily fit in the post title.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, people should read an entire thought prior to responding to it.

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Carbon capture tech.

That one is still being promoted but in the end the CO2 is mainly used to get more oil out of wells.

[–] golli@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Agreed. Future carbon capture capabilities are used to justify current emissions.

[–] 332@feddit.nu 0 points 2 months ago

Oh yeah, definitely this. The economics will probably never allow it to be deployed at a scale where it will make any sort of difference.

Instead, it is used as an excuse to not take any action on climate change which is actually realistic, albeit hard.

[–] buzz86us@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I'd rather grown more Hemp

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[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Most things to do with Green Energy. Don't get me wrong, I think solar panels or wind turbines are great. I just think that most of the reported figures are technically correct but chosen to give a misleadingly positive impression of the gains.

Relevant smbc: https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/capacity

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[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Small modular reactors. You see these being proposed but so far they're not being built.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The two nuclear developmemts I'm watching closest are the test molten salt reactor in Oak Ridge, TN and just recently heard about a new permit to build one for Abilene Christian University in Texas.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

There have been others building a prototype or research reactor, but the M in SMR also stands for mass-produced and nobody got even close to that.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Molten salt sounds like a terrible design for modular, the whole problem is if it loses power it freezes solid, you'd want a huge one with tons of backup imho.

I'd imagine a tiny pebble bed or traveling wave, something fairly inert and safe.

Edit: I guess that's the point, give someone a reactor, if they screw it up it safely freezes dead. Problem solved.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Other than AI, it’s automation. It’s pretty good when it works but has the same overall intent as AI (in reducing the human labor force), just on a smaller level. At least automation isn’t consistently delivering inaccurate information.

[–] Vanth@reddthat.com 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I was at my company's booth at a career fair earlier this week and it felt like every other student was looking for an internship in "machine learning". When I asked follow up questions about what sort of experience they'd had or projects done or what they wanted to do with it in their career, crickets.

To be fair, 2nd most popular was "CAD" which is also not a job.

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[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What sort of automation specifically are you referring to? I work in commercial building automation, which is basically tying various systems like fire/burg alarms, access control, energy/lighting management, intercoms, and everything else together using TCP/IP networking, RS-232/485, and dry-contact relay triggers everywhere. For instance, unlocking all doors and stopping elevator access when the fire alarm goes off. Or automatically disarming a burglar alarm and turning on the lights when the first person in the morning scans their badge. In that sense, it works great and has been working for decades.

If you mean robots taking all our jobs, yeah that's about 100 years out.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Take a look at any factory floor and robots (machines) already have taken 80% of jobs.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

That doesn't sound overhyped. Sounds like it is effective

[–] Cryophilia@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I literally worked on a factory line in the summer of 2015 right next to the robot they built over the course of that summer to replace us. Felt like John Henry.

[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's super interesting. How do you get started at something like that? Or where would a newcomer start to learn more about it?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 months ago

With me, I started applying at electronic security companies 20 years ago as a helper to pull cable and hang cameras, the simpler, more labor intensive stuff. They are always looking for people like that as the older folks like me go more into the head end set up and programming because our bodies hurt too much 😁. I learned 90% of what I know from on the job training, the rest I already had sort of a background in electronics because of my personal hobbies.

[–] makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Melbourne street fashion. Literally asian style pump flip flops with socks half way up your calves. 80s tracksuit baggies. Trying REALLY hard to look like they're not trying. The city is loving it.

[–] mriguy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

No worries. Still interesting!

[–] zingo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shit!

I came here to say AI, which I'm not allowed to.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Quantum computing? The hype isn't so bad lately and I'm somewhat optimistic but it's worth a mention.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I feel like it's hyped just enough. It does have the potential to revolutionize computing but we have no practical applications for it at the current point in its development. There's only so much you can hype something that can't even act as a simple calculator better than a handheld calculator can.

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[–] surfrock66@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (6 children)

Cloud. Businesses went all in on cloud under this illusion of stable costs, but costs go up and contol/support have gone down, and I'm seeing businesses spin on-prem back up.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Disagree. People are terrible using the cloud, and often are doing lift and shift instead of modernizing.

Incompetent users are the problem, not the cloud.

[–] surfrock66@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Completely disagree. This last March, Microsoft changed the storage limit per user on OneDrive for education from 1TB to 100GB, and users either had to delete a ton of files or pay for increased license/space. We ended up standing an on-prem file server back up shortly thereafter because we could not get our users and faculty to delete research data and could not afford to nearly double our cost expenditure. In my experience doing IT budget for years, cloud has meant that you cannot predict your yearly expenditures, Especially if you use your services that are funded in part by venture capital. Let's say you start using some cool research presentation project and suddenly the economy dips and they lose funding, the cost goes way up. Life cycle management has gone completely out the toilets in my experience with cloud products.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well, if you did your budget planning with a loss leader that can happen. Did you get prices from AWS S3, Google Suite, Azure Blob storage, GCP, etc, or just blindly went back to what you knew?

[–] surfrock66@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

We had been a university with office365 for several years, and the price change came well after the product comparison and decision was made. Once you are in an ecosystem like that the cost of changing is astronomical when you include migration labor, training, and loss of productivity during the transition. When you are a university with thousands of student, staff, and alumni accounts, and the office, mail, and authentication environments are integrated, it's realistically functionally impossible to migrate.

The student A1 licenses are 0 cost without upgrades, which is why it was chosen, but the storage change was a blindside. We had hundreds of accounts using over the 100GB of data (which was within TOS) and had tons of data in onedrive which had to be moved or we had to fork out per account. This was a bait and switch, plain and simple, and that is the issue with "cloud for everything" is you are at their mercy.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Didn't the 0 cost sound any alarms? Y'all thought that was sustainable?

[–] surfrock66@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't understand your disbelief here, the 2 major players in online email and account mgmt (for education) are Google and Microsoft and both are 0 cost, but the bait and switch is the limit lowering mid cycle, not even on the academic calendar. Now that exchange on-prem is essentially dead and Google and MS control email via blacklist politics, it's a captive market.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago

How is it a captive market if the whole discussion started with an on-prem migration?

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Are militaries businesses in a wide sense?

Thinking of those "permissions for Ukraine to strike" being discussed and the reasons Armenia couldn't use Iskander missiles against Azerbaijan in 2020, and Azerbaijan apparently hasn't used Lora missiles after 2020.

[–] audaxdreik@pawb.social 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

1000% this. Without giving away too much information, I work(ed) for a cloud provider (not one of the big ones, there are a surprising number of smaller ones in the field you've probably never heard of before). I quit this week to take a position in local government with some quaint, on-prem setup.

  1. We were always understaffed for what we promised. Two guys per shift and if one of us took vacation; oops, lol. No extra coverage, just deal.
  2. Everyone was super smart but we didn't have time to work the tickets. Between crashes, outages, maintenance, and horrendous tickets that took way too much work to dig into, there was just never enough time. If you had a serious problem that took lengthy troubleshooting, good luck!
  3. We over-promised on support we could provide, often taking tickets that were outside of infrastructure scope (guest OS shit, you broke your own server, what do you want me to do about it?) and working them anyway to please the customer or forwarding them directly to one of our vendors and chaining their support until they caught wise and often pushed back.
  4. AI is going to ruin Support. To be clear, there will always be support and escalation engineers who have to work real problems outside the scope of AI. However without naming names, there's a big push (it'll be everyone before too long, mark it) for FREE tier support to only chat with AI bots. If you need to talk to a real human being, you gotta start dishing out that enterprise cash.

Mix all that together and then put the remaining pressure on the human aspect still holding things up and there's a collapse coming. Once businesses get so big they're no longer "obligated" to provide support, they'll start charging you for it. This has always been a thing of course, anyone who's worked enterprise agreements knows that. But in classic corpo values, they're closing the gap. Pay more for support, get less in return. They'll keep turning that dial until something breaks catastrophically, that's capitalism baby.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

Basically you save money on tech/support because of scale.

So you triple and quadruple your sales and marketing spend to get more business.

In the end it just doesn't work, except the smaller guys and a lot of them are just hanging on as the stacks get more complicated.

Aws and gcloud are thickening the stack and driving everyone else out of business.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 months ago (13 children)

Arm on Laptops and Desktops

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Mobile apps. They have so much money and users and it still feels like there isn't as many cool mobile apps as there are cool computer program.

Mobile apps often feel like a web browser with the URL bar.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It’s totally possible to make cool mobile apps, but most of the ones you see are just a big company porting their website.

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[–] StorageAware@lemmings.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Passkeys. They'll probably improve eventually but I feel like right now it's a mess.

On Android you are forced to use the default implementation, only in 14 and above can you use password managers for them.

On desktop it's somewhat less messy but you can use the system storage or a password manager extension. Some sites only let you use them for 2FA, some full login, some can't be put in a password manager from my experience and so on.

Just a mess right now.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 0 points 2 months ago

I am mostly concerned about potentially needing specific Big Tech implementations for them in some way... I don't mind using, say, KeepassXC for it, because it is independent from any account or hardware, as well as easily backupable. But NOT anything tied to a Google or MS account.

Maybe I am misunderstanding something, but Paypal says it restricts what passkeys can be used, so it is apparently possible:

Passkeys are currently available for eligible personal accounts. An eligible Apple or Android device is required to create a passkey.

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