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My wife's phone dies every. single. day. and I don't know why she doesn't just charge it at night.

I'm just wondering how people live like this πŸ˜…

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[–] Dekkia@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I charge it during the day at work.

Boss makes a dollar I make a dime...

[–] janonymous@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

... that's why I charge on company time

[–] Dirk@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

I charge my phone at work ...

[–] memphis@lemmy.fmhy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Keeping Lithium-ion batteries at 100% charge will reduce their lifespan. They want to live in the 40-80% range. I use an app that notifies me when my phone has charged to 80%, so that I can unplug it. It may be overkill, but I plan to use this phone for 9 more years or so.

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to never charge my phone at night, because of my battery health pedantry. I the found the AccA app which enables me to limit the maximum charging, so now I sometimes leave it changing during the night.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

If you're still convinced you need to run your battery down to zero you're operating on outdated knowledge of NiCad batteries and ruining your lithium ion batteries.

My Android phone has a built in functionality to charge so that it hits 100% when your alarm is rigged to go off. Idk about iphone though.

[–] tmpod@lemmy.pt 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was not talking about running the battery down to 0, that's no good for li-ion batteries either. I was talking about the exact, opposite, reaching 100% and staying there for hours on end (which happens during the night). With AccA I can set an upper limit.

[–] Nugget_in_biscuit@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hi Tmpod! This is actually a common misconception among the general device-using public!

You are absolutely correct that a lithium battery will degrade if you maintain a state of charge (β€œSOC”) for long periods of time that is either above 90% or below 10%. Of course, phone manufacturers know this too, and they have set the charging software to block off the top of the pack, which allows the user to safely leave their phone on the charger indefinitely.

[–] raubarno@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why can't it be as easy as a relay (or transistor) switch that cuts off the power?

[–] Nugget_in_biscuit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

This is basically how charging works today. There are transistors in the power management module that stop the battery from charging once it reaches the specific voltage that the software deems is appropriate

[–] Distributed@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Requires root? I'd rather degrade my battery than run an out-of-date, more vulnerable operating system..

[–] bjwest@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use a chargie. It's a physical Bluetooth connected device that connects between the phone and charger and lets you set your own charge limit. Works great with my wireless charger at night. I also have one for my tablet.

[–] sneakyninjapants@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel this pain. Wife's battery-powered devices are always in a constant state of dying. Something has convinced her that it's better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery; meaning it never gets charged overnight. I'm sure there's a small kernel of truth in where she learned that, but it's almost a joke at this point when she goes scrambling for her charger when using her phone, tablet, etc. It's painful, but also adorable? I guess. Anyway, it's not a hill I'm willing to die on, so I just let it be and laugh almost everytime it happens.

[–] Zamboniman@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Something has convinced her that it’s better to let the battery almost! die, then charge it to full, but not leave it plugged in because that will degrade the battery

That was true a long time ago when NiCad batteries were around. But, since they had the problems you described, they're not around any more, and phones generally all use lithium-ion batteries which don't have this issue.

[–] killall-q@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She needn't worry about manually optimizing battery wear, and, in fact, the most harmful thing you can do to a battery is to fully deplete it frequently.

Educate her about built-in optimized battery charging. iPhones and some Androids have it.

This. My wife and I have that setting turned on on our Samsung phones. Mine is 3 years old and I still get all-day battery

[–] SilentStorms@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I think that was true like.. 10+ years ago, but battery and power management tech have advanced so that's no longer necessesary. I think running full cycles on your battery is actually bad for it now, I set mine to stop charging when it hits 85% to preserve battery health.

Sounds stressful constantly worrying about battery life, plopping it on a wireless charger before bed is the way to go.

[–] vis4valentine@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I just fall asleep while watching a yt video of something and the phone is still in my hand.

[–] BrooklynMan@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

when i see people's phones constantly at, like, 12%, it drives me crazy.

[–] dwindling7373@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know you married one, ask her and let us know?

Oh I have, I've heard every excuse haha, mostly just that she doesn't think of it? Seems weird to me

[–] DrFuggles@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Same thing with my girlfriend. I even got a charger and a cable just for her exclusive use but she keeps unplugging my phone because "it has more charge than mine". Which, fair, but like??? It didn't have to be this way??

[–] kcvis@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I wfh and charge during work

[–] Steinsprut@szmer.info 1 points 1 year ago

I have a wireless charger on my desk, pretty much almost every day I already have 100% when going to bed

[–] Racchio@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I just turn it off, and it generally need to recharge in the next day afternoon.

[–] moosetwin@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

I'm worried there'll be an electrical fault and it'll start a fire.

[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because I try to charge my phone when I am in the office, as much as possible. There are no small savings in my book :D

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's actually a safety factor there. When Li-Ion (lithium-ion) batteries fail and suffer thermal runaway (fire), it's most commonly during charging. It's rare, but it does still happen. The rule is to avoid charging Li-Ion powered devices unattended. I do that at times myself, but I realize the risk and actually put things in a "charging pot" if unattended.

You don't need anything fancy to use as a charging pot, a ceramic casserole dish will do. If you're going to charge while asleep or out of the house it's not a bad idea to use some kind of containment.

[–] Brad@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I didn't know about that, now I'm scared.

[–] rm_dash_r_star@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Don't be scared, it's actually a pretty rare occurrence. Just be aware it can happen. Same thing with driving, accidents are rare, but wear your seatbelt.

[–] coffeekomrade@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read to fall asleep, so my phone usually stays with me in bed. Pro-Tip, if she has an iPhone, set the Sleep focus to turn on at a specific time and enable low power mode.

[–] zettajon@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

For many years I always did this for my own android phone in Tasker, and more recently Samsung Modes&Routines, but thank you for this as I just realized I never did the same for my wife's iPhone

[–] wakamo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter when you got a fast-charge phone.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Fast charging decreases the lifetime of your battery compared to traditional charging. It's not a huge difference anymore (maybe 3% or something), but traditional charging isn't that inconvenient considering you're not using your phone while you sleep, anyway.

[–] exododo@lemmy.fmhy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sometimes I fall sleep while scrolling or watching something in bed, so no overnight charge

[–] Fallstar@mander.xyz 1 points 1 year ago

Because I can charge it in my car, at my desk in the office or with my battery pack when I am out.

I have a wireless charging stand at work, so my phone is nearly 70% charged when I go to bed. No real point to me in having extra clutter on my nightstand.

On the weekends, I’ll charge my phone on the kitchen counter while making breakfast for the kids.

[–] iridaniotter@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I thought you're not supposed to keep things charging after they reach full battery. Also I don't have a plug near my bed lol

[–] tiwenty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Recent smartphones learn your patterns and don't fill up until the morning. For instance my phone currently is stuck at 80% and says it'll be fully charged at 7AM