this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2024
4 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

59651 readers
2643 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

The songs that the AI CEO provided to Smith originally had file names full of randomized numbers and letters such as "n_7a2b2d74-1621-4385-895d-b1e4af78d860.mp3," the DOJ noted in its detailed press release.

When uploading them to streaming platforms, including Amazon Music, Apple Music, Spotify, and YouTube Music, the man would then change the songs' names to words like "Zygotes," "Zygotic," and "Zyme Bedewing," whatever that is.

The artist naming convention also followed a somewhat similar pattern, with names ranging from the normal-sounding "Calvin Mann" to head-scratchers like "Calorie Event," "Calms Scorching," and "Calypso Xored."

To manufacture streams for these fake songs, Smith allegedly used bots that stream the songs billions of times without any real person listening. As with similar schemes, the bots' meaningless streams were ultimately converted to royalty paychecks for the people behind them.

(page 2) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe a stupid question but.... what exactly was illegal about this? I'm sure there were ToS or EULAs violated, but what law is he being charged on?

[–] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

3rd sentence of the article:

Indicted on three counts involving money laundering and wire fraud, the Charlotte-area man faces a maximum of 20 years per charge.

If you follow the article to the press release:

SMITH, 52, of Cornelius, North Carolina, is charged with wire fraud conspiracy, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison; wire fraud, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison; and money laundering conspiracy, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison.

[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Ah thanks. I didn't follow to the release page and just skimmed the article, should have read closer.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Those are the charges yes, but how is this any different than what all sorts of corporations do

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's fraud I'm assuming. They fake "plays" for Spotify to reward by sending payment, but these plays were people that did not exist. Spotify was paying for ghosts to essentially steam music

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Facebook and other social media corporations use AI bots to generate "views" to inflate their traffic numbers to entice advertisers. They also use bots to piss people off and drive "engagement.". Which is also fraud.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Underwaterbob@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Wow. I'm a hobbyist musician. I have ~12 million listens across various streaming services and have made a whopping $45 in the two years since I finally released ~25 years worth of material. (Which is a lot of why it's my hobby and not a living.)

I can't imagine the numbers this guy had to pull off to make that much.

[–] NineMileTower@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (4 children)
load more comments (4 replies)
[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Send me a link and I can get you to ~12 million and 1 listens.

[–] deltapi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How obvious is it that it's a bot?

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have ~12 million listens across various streaming services

The great thing about bots is that they can listen to every song on file, 24/7/365, and you can spin up as many of them as you like. 12 million is nothing.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Indicted on three counts involving money laundering and wire fraud

Oops. Picked on the big dogs by playing their own game.

Seriously though, probably more going on than what we read here.

[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

And he thought he could get away with it without bribing the politicians!

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The guy sounds like a great entrepreneur.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

If he already had millions in the bank the lawyers would have made this go away before anyone in the public would have noticed.

[–] Schorsch@feddit.org 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A headline that wouldn't have been possible five years ago. Sick.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

i mean this is the system we got set up isnt it?

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Not sure how this is a crime... breach of TOS, sure, but a crime?

What law is being broken here?

If his fake bands are being paid for bot clicks, that's a problem for the platforms to figure out. They need to examine their TOS.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not sure how this is a crime... breach of TOS, sure, but a crime?

What law is being broken here?

Not curious enough to actually read the article, eh?

Indicted on three counts involving money laundering and wire fraud

One may argue about money laundering but it's pretty clearly fraud.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's just a generic indictment. And it's allegedly. How do you perform wire fraud if a corporation legally paid you for a service?

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Try to overthrow the US government? You can still be president. Break a companies arbitrary TOS? Police are at your door to take you away for a long time.

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

I'm not a lawyer but this sounds like a pretty textbook definition of fraudulent business practice to me.

[–] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

I would assume it is Fraud

load more comments (8 replies)
[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago (7 children)

How is this illegal? Sounds legit to me.

I use AI to answer ai generated emails at work all the time. I also use AI to design buildings that will never house people, but computer systems. It's all a shell game folks!!!

load more comments (7 replies)

bro found a glitch in the system

[–] General_Effort@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

SMITH created thousands of accounts on the Streaming Platforms (the “Bot Accounts”) that he could use to stream songs. He then used software to cause the Bot Accounts to continuously stream songs that he owned. At a certain point in the charged time period, SMITH estimated that he could use the Bot Accounts to generate approximately 661,440 streams per day, yielding annual royalties of $1,207,128.

From the original press release: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/north-carolina-musician-charged-music-streaming-fraud-aided-artificial-intelligence

Kinda funny how the term "AI" drowns out all rational thought and reading comprehension. Of course, that's why it's there in the clickbait headline. I avoid news sources that pull that sort of thing. I don't appreciate being manipulated.

load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›