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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I seem to recall about 13 years ago when "the cloud" was going to put everyone in IT Ops out of a job. At least according to people who have no idea what the IT department actually does.

"The cloud" certainly had an impact but the one thing it definitely did NOT do was send every system and network admin to the unemployment office. If anything it increased the demand for those kinds of jobs.

I remain unconcerned about my future career prospects.

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

How many times does the public have to learn if the CEO says it, he probably doesn't know what he's talking about. If the devs say it, listen

[–] hark@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

This will be used as an excuse to try to drive down wages while demanding more responsibilities from developers, even though this is absolute bullshit. However, if they actually follow through with their delusions and push to build platforms on AI-generated trash code, then soon after they'll have to hire people to fix such messes.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's not going to happen.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Yeah writing the code isn't really the hard part. It's knowing what code to write and how to structure it to work with your existing code or potential future code. Knowing where things might break so you can add the correct tests or alerts. Giving time estimates on how long it will take to build the parts of the system and building in phases to meet your teams needs.

[–] beefbot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago

This. I’m learning a new skill right now & hardly any of it is actual writing— it’s how to arrange the pieces someone else wrote (& which sometimes AI can decently reproduce.)

When you use a computer you don’t start by mining iron, because the thing is already built

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

I've always thought that design and maintenance are the difficult and gruelling parts, and writing code is when you get to relax for a bit. Most of the time you're in maintenance mode, and it's harder than writing new code.

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I left my job in fast food to go to school for tech because it seemed like the thing to do and I wanted to have a good life and be able to afford stuff. So I ruined my life getting a piece of paper only for them to enshittify things to oblivion and destroy the job market to the point it's fast food or retail only again. I suppose getting a masters in something is the logical next step but at a certain point a scam's a scam and I'm not digging a deeper hole.

[–] AWittyUsername@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Fast food and retail are fucked too tbh

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Guys that are putting billions of dollars into their AI companies making grand claims about AI replacing everyone in two years. Whoda thunk it

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know.

--Lao Tzu...

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[–] Trigger2_2000@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Of course they won't be; somebody has to debug all the crap AI writes.

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They aren't wrong, just late. Coding is already dead. Most coders I know spend very little time writing new code. Meeting/discussions about requirements, debugging, fighting with pipelines or tests. I once read that a good programmer writes 10 to 100 lines of fully functional, tested, working, and meeting the actual need code a day. I believe it.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay but you literally said they're still writing the code though lmao.

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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Let's assume this is true, just for discussion's sake. Who's going to be writing the prompts to get the code then? Surely someone who can understand the requirements, make sure the code functions, and then test it afterwards. That's a developer.

[–] witx@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't believe for a single instance that what he says is going to happen, this is just a play for funding... But if it were to happen I'm pretty sure most companies would hire anything that moves for those jobs. You have many examples of companies offloading essential parts of their products externally.

I've also seen companies hiring tourism graduates (et al non engineering related) giving them a 3/4 week programming course, slapping a "software engineer" sticker on them and off they are to work on products they have no experience to work on. Then it's up to senior engineers to handle all that crap.

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[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

But coding never was the difficult part. It's understanding a concept, identify a problem and solve it with the possible methods. An AI just makes the coding part faster and gives me options to quicker identify a possible solution. Thankfully there's a never ending pile of projects, issues, todos and stackholder wants, that I don't see how we need less programmers. Maybe we need more to deal with AI, as now people can do a lot more in house instead of outsourcing, but as soon as that threshold is reached, companies will again contact large software companies. If people want to put AI into everything, you need people feeding the AI with company specific data and instruct people to use this AI.

All I see is middle management getting replaced, because instead of a boring meeting, I could just ask an AI.

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