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  • YouTube is intensifying efforts to combat adblockers, including blocking video playback and warning users of potential account suspension.
  • Increased ads on YouTube have driven many users to adblockers, hurting both YouTube’s ad revenue and content creators reliant on ad-based income.
  • Despite these measures, many users are leaving YouTube or finding workarounds, leading creators to seek alternative revenue streams off-platform.
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[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Good fucking riddance.

The sooner they realize the enshittification isn't working, and is only increasing the amount of people participating in the largest global consumer boycott ever, the sooner they'll actually try to improve the platform, or die trying.

YouTube has continuously made the experience worse, adding more and more ads to users not using ad blockers, to compensate for those using them. Guess what, genius? People block ads because they suck. Adding more won't stop people from using ad blockers!

And they have the audacity to try selling YouTube Premium for a whopping $14/mo (nowhere near the actual revenue generated from a user watching ads,) then don't even provide any real benefit past ad blocking, after they deliberately killed YouTube Originals because it didn't instantaneously bring in immense profits.

And the content creators I personally know have shown me the amount of money they get from Premium users, and it's sometimes less than the value of an ad-supported user, even though the Premium user generates more revenue than an ad-supported one.

I would pay for YouTube Premium if it was a reasonable rate, and actually came with exclusive content, similar to Nebula, but it doesn't.

Instead, YouTube has continued to make the interface more and more bloated, slow, and inefficient, and increased the incentives for low-quality, mass-produced content, all while not paying creators enough to support themselves on YouTube's own platform.

YouTube can't see itself as being the cause of its own issues, because it's blinded by bad ad-driven fiscal policy that has only been a proven failure.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

Those surfshark maps... ugh. No, I'm not searching for ublock origin. Why would I it's been installed since time immemorial. You have to measure install base, not search interest. Leave search interest for celebrity gossip.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And the content creators I personally know have shown me the amount of money they get from Premium users, and it's sometimes less than the value of an ad-supported user, even though the Premium user generates more revenue than an ad-supported one.

Can you expand on this? I don't follow what you mean here

[–] grozzle@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

i read it as - the Premium money is mostly going to YouTube HQ, instead of to video makers.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every creator I've seen talk about it said they get more from Premium viewers, so that's why I'm confused

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[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (21 children)

I’ll never understand the entitlement of these companies when it comes to ads. You send the content freely to my computer along with BS ads. It’s my computer. I’ll display what I want using programs I want.

If you want me to pay for that content with $ or by watching ads - then put up a hard paywall and stop sending the content for free. You can’t get uppity and complain about ad blockers - it doesn’t make any sense…

The real problem is your content sucks and nobody is willing to pay for it. And that’s your problem - not mine.

Here’s some free apples. There’s a newspaper ad stuffed in there as well. Oh you ate the apples without reading the newspaper? Foul ball! /facepalm

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[–] copd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Wheres the data to back up this claim? That article is purely opinion

[–] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The backup is I havn't seen a single fucking ad for years on Youtube. Using it daily on both desktop and android

[–] madcat@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I've been using Youtube basically since it exists. There were no ads in the beginning. I've also always been using adblockers. I was surprised when I heard people say they have to wait for ads on youtube. I was like "What? Youtube has ads!?".

[–] copd@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I dont want to offend you, but you're a drop in the ocean when compared to the grand total of Youtube users.

Pretty much everyone I know outside of tech who has ever "showed me a cool video on Youtube real quick" has waited to load ads before showing me their phone.

If you get outside, touch grass and meet real non tech people pretty much all of them need educating on ad avoidance.

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[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised that Vimeo hasn't decided to take advantage of the enshittifcation of YouTube. They have been a social video platform for years, and are probably the best placed platform to come close to overtaking YouTube - should they choose to move away from the professional space and embrace the social aspects of video.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, Pornhub has the infrastructure to take on Youtube, if they wanted. If they just cloned the site, sans content, and called it Videohub, there would immediately be a real contender in the marketplace.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

"Should we moderate our ads and get rid of 2 hour long ads, disinformation, porn,scams and fake products?"

"No, no. Thats to much effort. Lets spend hundreds of millions of dollars trying to force people to watch our 2 hour long ads, disinformation, porn, scams and fake products. Thats clearly the way forward."

This decision process brought to you by Prager U proceeds into 30 minutes about how slavery was good for the black man and he should be grateful for it

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

If they kept the ads to 10-15 seconds at the start of a video and didn't interrupt my videos for them, I would never use an adblock on Youtube (i'll even give them an allowance for one 10 second ad interruption for every hour in the case of super long videos). But for as long as they keep trying to squeeze every goddamn penny out of me that they can, I will fight back and do everything in my power to prevent them from being allowed even a single ad impression off me.

I'm not unreasonable, but I refuse to accept unreasonable offers.

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[–] Emmie@lemmings.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

I hope one day we will find a method to finance websites operating costs without ads. Meanwhile I will be using blockers and hope someone else’s does the ad clicking.

It’s my little internet piracy you could say, if I am already doing it with every movie and tv show and most games it would be out of character. I am obsessed about saving money and so if I can get away with it I will do almost anything.
Same with the health insurance I have 1/5 of the real cost for full package because of various gray area tax optimisations. Then double dipping on real estate rent+appreciation. Most efficient used car purchase. 25 year old fridge and washing machine because new ones break down too fast and can’t be repaired. Manual renovation between tenants to save on labour cost. Lack of addictions. Relatively cheap hobbies. 4 milion in assets.

[–] HKayn@dormi.zone 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I hope one day we will find a method to finance websites operating costs without ads.

Never. People don't want to donate, people don't want to pay a subscription fee, people don't want to watch ads. People want everything on the internet for free.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

Give the people doing good stuff and social proofed a livable wage. Just print fucking money, don't even tax, do I have to kill every economist with my bare hands ?

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[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The ads have become too long. Some of them are 40 seconds long, for a 3 minute video. That's unacceptable. I have thought about it, and I think the best would have been an 8 second ad, unskippable. But never more than that. That, I could take. But multiple ads (even if they're just 5 secs each but you have to be vigilant to press "skip"), or long ads, are just too much to accept.

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[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Are they? The app I use to view YouTube without ads got taken down and so did the other ones

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[–] _sideffect@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Fuck em, they're just greedy fucks that'll blame us for everything.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I mean this genuinely: I would rather YouTube die than be subject to their overlong and hyper targeted ads.

If the ads were untargeted I'd feel less adamant, but as it is now I would sooner give up YouTube entirely.

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