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[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

For those of us on Android, can't we download the old APK which still talks Bluetooth and just never interact with the web/wifi for these?

[–] macarthur_park@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I have one of these. The sous vide cooker itself is very nice and easy to use, I’d highly recommend it. The app is a bit clunky and not necessary to use the device. I certainly wouldn’t pay $2 a month for it.

The app lets you set a temperature and cook time, but you can also do this using the buttons on the cooker. Sometimes the WiFi pairing is finicky, so honestly I skip the app half the time. The app also lets you view and write recipes. I guess the big advantage is you can click “start cooking” and it automatically sets the device temp and time, but doing it manually isn’t much harder. I’m also not wowed by the in-app recipe selection, and generally just get recipes from the internet.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

First Inwas like Yeeeah to all the "smart stuff". But more and more I'm thinking - what happens to current cars after some time? When all the connected crap gets disconnected? Currently you can fix and drive any old piece of junk and drive it in theory forever. What happens when the smart cars lose connection to mothership? What happens when all the electronics go bad and there is no way to fix it? Same goes for your fridge, coffee maker, etc.

[–] chilicheeselies@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I bet the app requires cloud hosting for it to run, and its starting to eat away at the profits they made.

If it needs nothing but bluetooth, then this a pure money grab.

[–] HonkTonkWoman@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago

It use to operate only off of Bluetooth, & then they added single band WiFi. They just added dual band WiFi as a new feature & are now removing Bluetooth functionality completely.

Absolutely a cash grab.

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[–] darkevilmac@lemmy.zip 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

They're just going to push people to the cheaper units at this point.

I was looking at sous vide cookers a few months back and was considering ANOVA but they were too expensive. Opted for a generic one instead.

The fact that they're more expensive and require a subscription for what's essentially a set of presets that my cheap unit has for free is just ridiculous.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

Interesting, because when they were relatively new, they were also the cheap option. Sous vide used to be a $1000+ thing. I did a DIY version for around $200, but later Anova came out and it was less sketchy than my box of wires running mains voltage.

Instant Pot seems to make a pretty good one that fits around the sides of their pressure cookers.

Anova's app is basically useless. Could be nice for looking up temperatures and times for specific things, but I usually google it, anyway. Steaks are by far the most common thing I do sous vide, so it's usually preset for that. Never used the app outside of playing with it when I first got it.

One thing is for sure: I won't be recommending Anova to friends anymore.

[–] Gordito@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Instan pot didn't continue to update their app three years ago and I now have a useless Insta pot.

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[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

explain how the waterproofing+heatproofing on sous DIY sous vide work. I must know.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago

Oh, that's just the sealed bag like normal. Back then, I was using special ziploc bags with a port for a small hand pump. They seem to have stopped making those, and I switched to a regular vacuum sealer.

The diy part was the heater/pump. I based it on this:

https://makezine.com/projects/sous-vide-immersion-cooker/

The problem with this design is that because it sits above the hot water, it tends to have a lot of condensation build up inside the housing. So I rebuilt it to have power plugs for the teacup heaters and pump. Then it could be set to the side, and I could use more heaters for larger containers.

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[–] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I refuse to use one that requires bluetooth or an account. I want to turn the bitch on and go do shit for 4+hr. There's nothing fancy about the process. Some real Ron Popeil shit and they try to force apps on us.

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[–] harsh3466@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Translation:

“Fuck you for not replacing your perfectly fine and still working 10 year old machine and making our line go up more. We’re gonna do our best to brick it because we want all of your money.”

Fuck capitalism. I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

[–] __init__@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I will (and have been) doing my absolute to avoid buying any kind of physical device that requires an app to function

Same. It’s becoming more difficult every day.

[–] FMEEE@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

And that's so sad. There are a lot of (mainly Elderly people) who don't even have a smartphone who now often can't use the most basic stuff necessary because it needs an app.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A lot of this stuff is only useful if you have money, anyway. And poverty rates among the elderly have been climbing since the Housing Crash of '08

[–] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I've said this before, I'm going to say it again: people with money spend it to save time.

Managing 2FA, software updates, account signin, device pairing, billing, privacy policy updates, cookie notices.... This shit does not save people time. It does the complete opposite.

These products are not built for consumers. These products are purely anticompetitive schemes, propping up crappy business models, trying to cash in on the data harvesting gold rush.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I've been screaming this at the top of my lungs for 20 years, and oh my god the "I told you so"'s I get to say now feel SO good.

i mean, I don't have any friends anymore, so mostly im just calling up people who hate me now and saying "I told you so", but, like I DID, so, worth.

I mean, not, like, 'worth' in the sense that anything in my life works or wasn't torn apart by my adherence to materialism and avoidance of dark patterns, but, like, you know, feels good for a few minutes when they haven't changed their number.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I need to start being better about this. It's a shame because I bought my joule sous vide because I like the simplicity and ability to monitor and program it remotely (helpful when cooking for 5-6h). App stopped working properly and now they've been purchased by breville and if I want to use it I need to switch and I'm guessing it won't be long before they start to drop functionallity or require some sort of subscription. There are things like this where the app is much more than a gimmick. But it sucks to have some company pulling the strings of what you can or can't do with your own hardware.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

water+heat proofing is hard, or I'd suggest a DIY solution.

[–] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago

I mean it is shitty still, but people with an old device and an account already are unaffected, plus the old devices like the one I have is completely operable offline. I've not connected it to WiFi except when I first got it to check the app out.

[–] primrosepathspeedrun@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

if I see something requires an app, no matter how good it is otherwise. the product is dead to me. I know it is, effectively, going to break within a year or two.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Other than my computer, phone and xbox, I own nothing at all that can connect to the Internet. It's incredibly stupid.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I have a smart TV and a Bluray player as well, but other than that, only phones, computers, and my Switch connect to the internet. My next TV will likely not be smart, because screw ads, and I've ripped all of my Blurays.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I've stopped buying TVs. It's difficult to find a dumb one nowadays. I watch on my phone or my computer monitor.

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[–] BlucifersVeinyAnus@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This is the absolute worst possible way for me to first hear about a product and company that I would have otherwise been interested in

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[–] radicalautonomy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

I forgot my ANOVA when I moved this summer. Now, I'm not that sorry I did.

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