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More info about it here: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/08/13/windows-11-start-menu-is-getting-a-new-layout-to-organize-your-apps/

I love how microsoft never learns their lessons.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Looks like MacOS and various Linux distros had a deformed, illegitimate child.

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Windows 11 gets a new all apps screen in the start menu*

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

These people are stupid fucks.

[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

People still use the start menu?

I just use the search bar and type in the app I'm wanting to run

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[–] kenkenken@fedia.io 0 points 3 months ago

It's awful, but KDE will copy it one day.

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Not my home screem!

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Linux and gnome pretty much gtfo of the way for me - as an OS should. I used to care a lot about what Microsoft did, now I couldn’t care less - F em

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[–] Eiri@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

IF the categorization works well, and that's a big if, I like it.

And if the categorization isn't absolutely perfect, you can bet everyone will be clamoring to be allowed to customize it or disable it.

[–] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 3 months ago (21 children)

What the fuck is the point of the start button in the middle? Like, did they forget why the space to the right of it even exists.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Makes sense on ultrawides.

Also, a start menu that opens in the centre is technically the best. It's in the most prominent part of the screen, and your mouse typically isn't far from there.

The start button is harder to hit than simply flinging it into the corner though, definitely.

If you're the kind of person who opens the start menu with the Windows key, a centre start menu is only an upgrade IMO.

[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Never thought about ultrawide screens, that makes sense. Other than that I see no improvement whatsoever. Corner space is way easier to hit with a mouse, but even when using keyboard shortcuts having it in the middle is just an additional adjustment from what it used to be.

An OS should get out of my way and let me do what I do. Changing design language forces me to relearn what I had already had a flow for. In other words it's utterly useless.

And I just know I'm gonna hate that automatic categorisation of apps, just as I hate web searches from start menu. Alphabetical order is predictable, but this I'd have to relearn.

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[–] Melonpoly@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I actually prefer it in the middle, it's easier to get to.

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[–] fox2263@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

It’s actually ideal with an ultra wide I have come to realise.

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[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 0 points 3 months ago

Amazing! Reading this headline made my bazzite partition grow by 2 whole disk drives!

[–] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Uggggh fucking whhhhhy.

I don’t even use Windows and I have to put up with this shit. My parents are going to call and ask how and why they have to use this new thing.

What was gained from this exercise in self-lobotomization? Pick a design language and stick to it.

Stirring the pot like this is driving away even enterprise users. My last org only approved Macs and Chromebooks because we didn’t want to deal with the headaches that windows brought. Imagine saying that statement 10 years ago!

[–] GalacticTaterTot@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I like the phone link integration. I've never been a fan out auto-populating app folders though.

Where's all the ads though? They've gotta be thinking about turning one of the folders into a recommended apps folder or something dumb. They'll sneak something in somewhere.

[–] Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I was just pissed at my PC for "Update and Shutdown" and returning to my PC with it at the lock screen. I think this might be enough for me to leave windows.

[–] vanderbilt@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Fam, jail that windows into a gaming partition and either get a Mac if you aren’t a computer nerd or use Ubuntu if you are. My computing quality of life improved greatly when I didn’t have to use Windows anymore.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Who even plays games that don't run well on Linux/proton these days?

You don't need to be a nerd. Just need to watch a vid or follow ubiquitous guide on how to partition a disk or install second disk. Installing and running Linux is easier than windows these days with most common distros.

The learning curve is easier than the one for each windows update too. At least for plasma, i would assume gnome too.

Still, some enterprise class software only running on windows is a reasonable excuse(for the user). Also not everyone has the drive space or can afford extra hardware. Obligatory privilege check ig.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, a sizable amount of multiplayer games. And if you play with friends, that can be an issue.

Thankfully I don't play any games with problematic anti-cheat, because I have no friends 🧠

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Modded games too.

Linux is getting there, but it's really only great for single player games now. That's what I use it for

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

i guess they couldn't find a way to not make it look fucking awful

[–] ulkesh@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Well that looks like pure garbage. Glad I no longer have to deal with it.

[–] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh, dang. Laughing in KDE Plasma.

[–] untorquer@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I die every workday when I have to boot in windows because our CAD doesn't work on Linux. On the other hand it makes switching back to plasma at the end of work feel as sweet as day 1! I don't feel like I'll ever take it for granted.

[–] smb@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

not the home screem

if had to use windows at home i'ld screem too.

not too surprised they didn't change that.

[–] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Holy hell, does every Windows 11 device require touch-based input soon or what?

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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No wonder why alot of people are on windows 10

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[–] stebator@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Win 11 still looks ugly.

My main desktop OS in Linux. But on my Windows 11 VM I'm using StartAllBack app. It makes start menu, task panel to be normal again, like it was in Windows 7 and XP.

[–] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (6 children)

I'm using StartAllBack app.

God, I hope MS doesn't find out this exists. I'm sure they'd find some way to break it on an update.

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