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TL;DR

  • Efforts like Graphene OS face increasing pressure from apps that refuse to run on non-standard Android.
  • The custom ROM project characterizes Google’s approach to device attestation as incomplete and flawed.
  • Graphene OS is prepared to take legal action if Google won’t let it pass Play Integrity checks.
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[–] towerful@programming.dev 0 points 3 months ago (29 children)

The only reason I stopped using grapheneOS was because Google contactless payment didn't work.
Loved everything else about graphene tho

[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I'm sure Google contactless payment works really well when the phone is dead. Or you drop your phone in a toilet or off a bridge. It's far easier to loose a phone than a card in a wallet in your pocket. If you lose your phone, you also lose access to all your money.

[–] MSugarhill@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago

Not a fan of google pay, but I gotta say, I lost way more wallets than phones in my life it's about a 3 to 0 ratio (not counting purses I have lost before owning a phone.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's high time we break apart all those large tech companies!

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Spin off the Android team into a nonprofit. I'm pretty sure OEMs would be all over that.

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[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Recently moved to graphene couldn't be happier

I don't care about these apps but it will only get worse over time if not addressed. I could see things as simple as Spotify, Netflix, etc. Refusing to run

I don't use those services either but that's not a future I want

[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I could see things as simple as...

Last I heard, the McDonalds' app doesn't work, of all things.

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/9123-the-mcdonalds-app-doesnt-work/

[–] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)
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[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Why does this call the problem by it's name, monopoly.

Android is another area Google are abusing their monopoly. Sure the phone market is a duopoly, but that doesn't help. Apple is even more locked down and user abusing.

Lots of app companies, like bank apps, think locking their apps to only work on official Android is best for security, but that compounds the monopoly. It's also arguably less secure!

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago (39 children)

Even without the custom ROMs, the whole Android ecosystem is a colossal fucking mess.

I've got old apps that won't work any more. It's not even compatible with itself.

People give Windows a load of shit, and deservedly so for some of it, but it's a million times more usable than Android when you want shit to "just work".

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[–] JCreazy@midwest.social 0 points 3 months ago

I'm running Graphene OS and its been solid. A few issues here and there with app compatibility but it is fantastic.

[–] orl0pl@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Motorola ROM is fine

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