Were people actually confused by the ending? It seemed pretty obvious.
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Go to any forum for a TV show after an episode. The amount of obvious things people get confused by is soul shattering. You will lose faith in humanity.
So, I'm not surprised if stupid people were confused by the ending. Unfortunately.
Sadly enough, the "cinema sins" YouTube channel is pretty representative of how dumb and inattentive the average viewer is.
Isn't cinema sins ... satrical?
it often straddles the line between "the narrator is pretending to be a dumb viewer" and "the creator is actually dumb"
It's honestly wild, and ranges from stuff that I can only assume is due to people playing on their phones and half-watching, to a level of ignorance about storytelling that basically requires the plot being exposition dumped for them to grasp it. I genuinely don't get it, and it can make recommending good shows/movies difficult.
For some things yeah I can see that. For the MCU, I disagree. There are so many different plot lines and characters and this hovering idea about where different phases are leading. I don’t blame a casual or even Uber fan viewer for not fully trusting or understanding what a given MCU movie’s ending will mean going forward.
You don't need to have seen any other movies to understand that nobody knows who Peter Parker is at the end of No Way Home. It's the catalyst for the entire movie.
I think we’re talking about two different things. The point of OP’s post was the Director sharing thoughts about this being the origin story conclusion for MCU Spiderman. That’s not something we saw in the movie itself. Yep… we saw the part where no one knows who Peter is. We didn’t see the part where the Director talked about what it means in general for MCU spiderman.
He's in high school the entire trilogy. Of course it's an origin story. This stuff isn't even worth debating over it's so simple.
Have to remember that a lot of people are pretty casual about their super hero movies, and each is in a mental vacuum from the others. I could see people not thinking about it that much.
the film’s director, Jon Watts, confirmed what audiences always suspected about the ending of the movie: it ends at the beginning.
I don’t understand what that means.
They mean that the three Spider-Man films have effectively become an origin trilogy for the Spider-Man that exists at the end of the movie - no more Avenger buddies, no more Stark tech, more of a solo friendly neighborhood Spider-Man.
'It ends at the beginning' is a bit of a confusing way of expressing that - and I don't think this was the intention of the trilogy when they set out - but I do think where No Way Home left things will make for a more interesting premise for Spider-Man 4. The MCU has done enormous galactic stakes to death - they can't beat Thanos destroying half of all life in the universe (as Ant-Man 3 showed - it just doesn't work). The only way to progress is to go back to a small scale and more personal stories and stakes, and Spider-Man 4 will be a great opportunity to get that right.
The phrasing is terrible. After reading the article, what they mean is that the ending was a full reset that lets them start over.
They consider the Tom Holland trilogy (so far) an “extended origin story”.
Took them 5 movies with Tom Holland Spider-Man but they finally have the origin done lol.
Just you wait until we get to the prequel septology dedicated to Uncle Ben getting shot.
I don't get it. Didn't the movie end with Peter becoming anonymous resulting in him having to start over?
Yeah, basically - everyone has forgotten who spider man is, so it's like all the avenger stuff and the other arcs never happened.
Everyone forgot who Peter Parker is. They all still remember Spider-man.
I just saw it as an easy way for everyone to move on from contract obligations. No commitment to keeping a Sony and Disney partnership. No commitment to keeping any of the actors. I don't think we'll see another Tom Holland spider man. I don't think we'll see another MCU spider man.
Disney would be in-fucking-sane to let go of an MCU Spidey. It would be like having X-men without Professor X, or removing some other staple hero. Spidey is far and away one of the most valuable singular heroes in the Marvel Universe, alongside Iron Man, Cap, and perhaps Wolverine, and each of those only truly became MASSIVELY popular after the movies. Spidey was already a juggernaut before that, in the comics world, and the Maguire movies.
No way do we not get another MCU spidey, whether it’s Holland or not.
Except that Disney doesn't control Spiderman, Sony does.
Disney will probably make do without Spiderman, especially now as it can tap into the movie rights that Fox had.
Wasn't it Sony wanting a reset in case no agreement was reached with Disney so they had free reign to take the story wherever that wanted?
I was under the impression that after the success of Spider verse that Sony was going to invest more in Miles Morales than Peter Parker and that the MCU can keep doing what it's doing.