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[–] Babalugats@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

They're also blocking posts by users who aren't banned or even got a warning. It appears to the user as though it's been posted, but it hasn't.

[–] eee@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

shadowbanning is a totally different issue that's existed for a long time though.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shadowbanning? Do you have more info on this?

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They’ve done this for a long time. It’s supposedly only supposed to be used on bots but it definitely isn’t in practice

[–] KroninJ@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's still possible to search with "site:reddit.com ..."

Has it been implemented yet or are they blocking non-flagged searches? Which seems odd.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

You shouldn't be getting any new results if you do that, older posts will/may remain indexed.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm kind of curious to understand how they're blocking other search engines. I was under the impression that search engines just viewed the same pages we do to search through, and the only way to 'hide' things from them was to not have them publicly available. Is this something that other search engines could choose to circumvent if they decided to?

[–] madis@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Search engine crawlers identify themselves (user agents), so they can be prevented by both honor-based system (robots.txt) and active blocking (error 403 or similar) when attempted.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, I understand better now. So in theory, if one of the other search engines chose to not have their crawler identify itself, it would be more difficult for them to be blocked.

[–] tb_@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

This is where you get into the whole webscraping debate you also have with LLM "datasets".

If you, as a website host, are detecting a ton of requests coming from a singular IP you can block said address. There are ways around that by making the requests from different IP addresses, but there are other ways to detect that too!

I'm not sure if Reddit would try to sue Microsoft or DDG if they started serving results anyway through such methods. I don't believe it is explicitly disallowed.
But if you were hoping to deal in any way with Reddit in the future I doubt a move like this would get you in their good graces.

All that is to say; I won't visit Reddit at all anymore now that their results won't even show up when I search for something. This is a terrible move and will likely fracture the internet even more as other websites may look to replicate this additional source of revenue.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago

Net neutrality?

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