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Switzerland mandates all software developed for the government be open sourced

Switzerland mandates software source code disclosure for public sector: A legal milestone

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/new-open-source-law-switzerland

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#tech #libre

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Now there is some common sense.

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Wwwaiiiiiittt... So does this mean OS too? Is an entire country switching to the dark side? Linux, I mean Linux

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

"Windows wasn't developed for the Swiss government, it was developed for the general public and we adopted it off the shelf."

[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Found the Swiss, can't even take a joke¡

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago

the right side

[–] F4U57@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

There going to face a whole bunch of compatibility issues when dealing with other countries imho. However, i personally find this to be a good thing. Its at the very least a strike at the heart of big systems controlling the masses.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

bites lip, damn Switzerland…. that is hot as fuck

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

This is the way it should be. Governments around the world have spent decades enriching big tech with public money, when they could have pooled their resources and built FOSS software that benefited everyone.

Same goes for science and everything else funded by tax payers.

[–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Together monkey strong!!

[–] bassomitron@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This makes me curious in the US on whether or not government app source code would be provided via a FOIA request.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Generally, works of the US government are public domain.

However, most apps are produced on contract with development companies, and I expect the contract specifies that the rights remain with the developer.

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[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You'd think so, but the answer is no. They've employed companies like Microsoft, Oracle, etc. to write up the security handbooks that says proprietary software is more secure. Heck, even electronic voting systems in the US is closed-source.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Security by obscurity the 100% least effective security measure! Wait what? MS left the government knowingly vulnerable for years for the shareholders?! That's some good security right there!

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't agree with the generalization here. Sure, it is generally advisable not to rely on security through obscurity, but depending on the use-cases and purpose it can be effective.

I dislike DRM systems with a passion, but they, especially those for video games like denuvo, can be quite effective, if the purpose is to protect against copying something for a short time until it gets cracked.

Otherwise I agree that software developed in the open is intrinsically more secure, because it can be verified by everyone.

However, many business and governments like to have support contracts so want to be able to sue and blame someone else than themselves if something goes wrong. This is in most cases easier with closed source products with a specific legal entity behind it, not a vague and loose developer community or even just a single developer.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

However, many business and governments like to have support contracts

What i don't get is that governments can have their own in-house IT and can moderately large companies and up, so why the blame-shifting game?

If i'm a customer and your software blows up in my face i will not care that It's not our fault, it's our contractors.

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[–] Geometrinen_Gepardi@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Heck, even electronic voting systems in the US is closed-source.

How can elections even be trusted to be fair in that case?

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

By claiming that everyone who do not trust is ~~communist~~ trumpist

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Simply, you can't. I'm personally all for an open source alternative for electronic voting. I can bank online, but not vote online. I'd trust an open source online voting platform more than I'd trust poll workers to not skew some votes. I'd also like to be able to track my vote and ensure it was cast for the person I voted for.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That's fucking amazing

[–] hotpot8toe@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That's really cool

[–] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

Hopefully more governments will follow this. At the very least, the taxpayer should have the right for whatever software's source code that it funds development.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I hope more governments do this, especially after how unsurprisingly shit (read: insecure) microsoft has become.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Has become? When was it ever not?

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