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Switzerland mandates all software developed for the government be open sourced

Switzerland mandates software source code disclosure for public sector: A legal milestone

https://joinup.ec.europa.eu/collection/open-source-observatory-osor/news/new-open-source-law-switzerland

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#tech #libre

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[–] ledix@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

"unless precluded by third-party rights or security concerns", so this bill does nothing

[–] Vigge93@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
  1. I imagine that the company would have the burden of proof that any of these criteria are fulfilled.

  2. Third-party rights most likely refers to the use of third-party libraries, where the source code for those isn't open source, and therefore can't be disclosed, since they aren't part of the government contract. Security concerns are probably things along the line of "Making this code open source would disclose classified information about our military capabilities" and such.

Switzerland are very good bureaucracy and I trust that they know how to make policies that actually stick.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It is written like that, so that MS 365 still can be used. Some worker here go literally crazy, if they have to work with alternatives to MS 365..

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

This is not what the law is about. They can use closed sourced software just fine.

This is a law about software developed for the Schweiz government. If they needed a new CRM system or database system for medical records, it would be open source.

And they can use Outlook to inform everyone about it without problem.

[–] Vigge93@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

While there might be some truth to that, I don't think MS 365 would qualify as "developed for the government."

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Ah, i see.. The „Security“ is used for the digital ID that is coming. Sadly, the part about Security of the ID is closed source to be "secure". Someone has to teach them that security through # obscurity is no security…

[–] BlackRoseAmongThorns@slrpnk.net 0 points 4 months ago

It does one thing: make every contract have a clause specifically to combat this...

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[–] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Is their Microsoft deal about to expire?

[–] xilona@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And still I wonder why almost all public institutions use Micro$oft & Co...

Nothing to see here, Same BS, Laws that do nothing, See GDPR,

[–] themurphy@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

You think GDPR does nothing?

Then you are not really qualified for the conversation until you read up on that.

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[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

If only other non-podunk countries would follow suit.

[–] kaffiene@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago
[–] maxinstuff@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

This doesn’t seem like a big deal?

The fact the code is open sourced is much less significant than the fact now the Swiss government will need to negotiate complete ownership of any software they commission.

That’s going to make things more expensive for them, and limit the vendors prepared to work with them.

Their systems, their call 🤷‍♂️

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

At least for ASTRA, for software developed in their projects that's already the case. Frameworks etc. used are not covered, but all source code for PLC and SCADA are theirs and you're required to hand over all code as part of documentation at the end. As a zip on a USB key, never to be looked at again.

[–] shekau@lemmy.today 0 points 4 months ago

Wtf is even "ASTRA"

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

the fact now the Swiss government will need to negotiate complete ownership of any software they commission.

I can't find it

[–] fungos@lemmy.eco.br 0 points 4 months ago

No, that is counter intuitive. It may appear more expensive at first, but on the long run it is a lot more cheaper. It avoid vendor lock-in, recurring increase of dev costs and licensing and lots of other plagues of closed proprietary development like blackbox development and justification of hidden complexity as a driving factor on costs. I worked with legacy closed proprietary sw development and lock-in combined with legacy complexity made man-hour costs exorbitant. These are partially solved by open-sourcing, as kicking out a team and putting a new one is easier, but most importantly transparency as a driving factor on quality of development.

[–] BlanK0@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Switzerland being based af ngl 😎😎😎

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't there EU-wide law about it?

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Switzerland isn't in the EU

[–] uis@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Ah. Right. It's easy to forget it.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It is however in the schengen area. so regulatory alignment on a lot of issues is still required as if they were members

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[–] SkabySkalywag@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago
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