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[–] rocci@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Is this a good Photoshop alternative?

[–] finley@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It’s serviceable for most tasks, but for some things Photoshop simply cannot be beat.

It’s better than gimp, which is saying a lot

edit: it's fine for 90% of what people use photoshop for. for the other 10% of edge-case PS wizardry, only PS can do that. it also performs way better than PS and has a native, fully-functional iPad version.

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’ve heard GIMP (also known as GNU Image Manipulation Program) is a legit foss alt.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gimp for a full image manipulation suit.

Krita for digital painting/art and a decent gui, still better for light image edits then paint.

Between those two photoshop is essentially overpriced hypeware. Its convenient to have both foss apps packed under a single well designed interface but no where worth what they demand. After adobe leaked the details from my student account back in 2013 they have continuously caused me so much damage they should be paying me.

[–] bizarroland@fedia.io 0 points 4 months ago

I actually use gimp in a semi-professional capacity. I have access to photoshop but I find Photoshop to be very unintuitive whereas Gump has all of its layouts exactly where I expect it to be after a few years of usage.

There are some things that photoshop does better than gimp. It's magic select tool is light years better than gimps, and content aware fill is also light years better, but I, who only need to make occasional minor edits to images to present them to other people one time I'm able to accomplish everything that I need with free software, and if it were up to me alone I would discontinue my Adobe subscription.

[–] warmaster@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's good if you can get pasta it's unintuitive UI.

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Pasta might be an improvement over its current UI.

[–] pikmeir@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

That's just because of all its spaghetti code.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Plugins can also help with that

[–] rocci@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

What are some good gimp plugins that improve the ui?

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Copied from a previous reply

I don't remember the names of the ones I used, but there are a ton of tutorials and videos on how to set it up to look like Photoshop, or in my case Fractal Design Painter

[–] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ooh, any recommendations? Pls & thx!

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I don't remember the names of the ones I used, but there are a ton of tutorials and videos on how to set it up to look like Photoshop, or in my case Fractal Design Painter

[–] lavdusk@chillpeep.zone 0 points 4 months ago

PhotoGIMP should work if you want a more Photoshop-y feel, though it's not a plugin, it's config file changes
https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP

[–] MMNT@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Depends on what you want to use it for, but yes it is. Especially since it's way cheaper.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 0 points 4 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Design software developer Serif has launched a new six-month free trial for its Affinity creative suite, which is well regarded as being one of the few viable alternatives to Adobe’s professional design apps.

Affinity uses a one-time purchase pricing model that has earned it a loyal fanbase among creatives who are sick of paying for recurring subscriptions.

Prices start at $69.99 for Affinity’s individual desktop apps or $164.99 for the entire suite, with a separate deal currently offering customers 50 percent off all perpetual licenses.

This discount, alongside the six-month free trial, is potentially geared at soothing concerns that Affinity would change its pricing model after being acquired by Canva earlier this year.

“We’re saying ‘try everything and pay nothing’ because we understand making a change can be a big step, particularly for busy professionals,” said Affinity CEO Ashley Hewson.

In a Decoder interview published today, Canva CEO Melanie Perkins declined to describe its offering as a full alternative to Adobe’s Creative Cloud.


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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I would buy Affinity Photo if they had a Linux version. Sure, it could be run in Wine, but I don't like using it for anything except games.

[–] PopOfAfrica@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't even really run on wine from my experience

[–] wurstgulasch3000@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

I saw a lengthy guide once on how to run it but it wasn't simple. Still better than Photoshop though

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

True, I rather use Photopea than trying to make it work under wine

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The Canva ownership still worries me.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

For a software that has a perpetual license, I'm not too worried.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Yeah, uh, Adobe products had that too - emphasis on the "had". Lots of complaints from customers that their licenses are just randomly getting deactivated, that they need to buy a new version, that they were supportive piracy...

I own Affinity Photo 1+2 but I will hop ship to yarr town the second they pull bullshit like this. Trust no one, you just get burned.

[–] M500@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Back before software subscriptions were a thing, I had a few different licenses which I would have assumed were perpetual.

In a way they were, but then my version stopped receiving updates and version 2 came out and they wanted me to buy version 2.

So perpetual licenses don’t mean anything if the company wants to be a jerk about it.

[–] kn33@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In a way they were, but then my version stopped receiving updates and version 2 came out and they wanted me to buy version 2.

That's... how it works? Surely you can't expect ongoing, infinite development without paying an ongoing cost. Eventually the current version will become the old version, and stop receiving updates.

I've seen this take before, and it's always been bad.

Back when perpetual licenses were normal - yeah, you could always install that software from the CD or whatever and input your key and activate it. As long as you were running it on a supported OS, it worked. Most of the time you'd get updates for a while, for the most popular software at least, but not always.

Then eventually, everyone who was going to buy it had bought it, mostly. The money stopped rolling in, and no one's going to make updates for free. So updates stopped.

Over time, it would just become not as good. It didn't change, the world around it did. New security vulnerabilities would be found, or the OS would update and it wouldn't be compatible anymore. Sure you could run the old OS, and it would work how it always had. But then vulnerabilities in the old OS would show up, or the newer OS would have a feature you want, or not be compatible with newer software you also want to run. It wouldn't be feasible to run that old software anymore.

That doesn't mean that the company didn't fulfill their promise. A perpetual license you bought, and a perpetual license you got. Office 2003 still runs on Windows XP. But neither of them are secure anymore, and besides, 2003 is missing a ton of features.

So they publish the next major version. It has new features (Office 2007 introduced docx, the ribbon, and SharePoint), and will get security updates while it's supported. People buy it and use it for a while, then the same thing happens as Office 2003. It ages, and goes to the wayside. People start buying Office 2010.

Eventually, the world speeds up. The Internet becomes faster and more reliable. Updates can happen faster and more consistently. People begin to expect updates for longer. The companies decide the best way to respond is to shorten the cycle. Instead of paying a large sum every few years for the latest version, they'll pay a small sum every month. Instead of major updates with new features every few years and only bug fixes or security patches in between, will trickle out new features as they finish along with security updates.

The thing is - the pricing hasn't actually changed that much. The only difference is that the cycle is smaller, and some people are just now realizing that there has always been a cycle.

CNET posted an article in 2006 with Office 2007 pricing, putting the Home edition at $150. That's $233 now. That's about 3 years, 4 months of Office 365 Personal ($70/year).

3 years after Office 2007 came out, Office 2010 was released. Do you see what I'm getting at? The cost you paid for 2007, in terms of a modern subscription cost, is the same as the time between the two major versions back then.

Sure, you could run it until 2017 with security updates if you were frugal, but trust me it looks pretty goofy to run Office 2007 on Windows 10. And besides, most people didn't. They bought their Windows Vista computer and bought Office 2007 with it at the Best Buy. When they bought their Windows 7 computer at that same Best Buy 3 years later, they bought Office 2010 to go with it.

So really, the license was perpetual, sure. But the software lifetime was never infinite, and people that act like they got cheated on their perpetual license because of that are foolish. The only thing that has changed is the length of the cycle. It went from paying every 3 years and getting major updates every 3 years to having money trickle out and features trickle in.

I know this is a controversial take here, but I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. It just makes it more obvious how much you're spending, because you're paying more often, which some people don't like.

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[–] otter@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago

Yep, I'm still suspicious we're in the good phase before things get anti-consumer

[–] Master@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago

Me too... but its still good till it goes to snit.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Absolutely - me,too.

But, to play the optimist for once - Canva could bring some good to Affinity/Serif. Canva is available as a native linux app and Serif in the past has stated multiple times it's mainly the lack of Linux resources and experience that stops them from providing Linux support. So maybe that could be a good influence.

Canva also has a workflow that is based on a webapp that is more "beginner friendly" than Affinity and a good integration between these services could be a good thing as it may remove barriers.

And Canva for a long time had a desire to provide a full production workflow, so maybe affinity gets the long missing library features.

BUT: Now enough with that optimism, sadly I am rather sure enshitification is around the corner. Which will be a sad day for me.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The only blocker to me is it doesn't have native Linux support

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Important point, and they also said they didn't plan on supporting Linux.

They're changing things up after being bought up, but I'm not sure if Linux is a priority for them yet

[–] philpo@feddit.de 0 points 4 months ago

Had a lengthy mail exchange on that topix with them - before them being bought, though.

While they don't plan a native Linux version they absolutely were open to optimise towards better Wine usability - which I totally could live with for now.

But I have no idea how the buying by Canva influenced things - Canva does have a linux app so maybe there are more resources and a different focus now.

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This means it runs with WINE? Or something similar?

[–] asap@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

WineDB says all their apps are "Garbage" status - eg does not run.

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[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I tried it with bottles. It installed fine after manually installing dotnet 4.8, but I couldn't get Affinity Photo itself to run, even after extensive tweaks. All I get is an exception without any description in the terminal output.

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[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (24 children)

I dumped my Adobe sub and grabbed Affinity Photo a while ago. It does 95% of the things Photoshop does (and 100% of what I need) for a one-time payment that is a fraction of the cost of an Adobe payment. It's runs so so SO much better than PS. I very often saw Photoshop using up to 40gb of RAM and Affinity Photo uses 9gb doing the exact same work with the same files.

Removing Creative Cloud and it's 838 different processes was amazing. Like finally washing your toilet flush after it's been clogged.

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[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 0 points 4 months ago

As a teacher, I use publisher all the time to make prints and materials for lessons. I’m still learning new tricks with it. And having Affinity Photo integrated means I click a tab and can better toy with images without having to swap the application.

[–] Goodie@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

If they had library management even close to what lightroom offers, I'd be there.

I may yet jump ship for photoshop.

[–] umbraroze@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think it's only a good thing they're not trying to shoehorn DAM features into their existing apps. If they made a DAM software it'd have to be an external app anyway.

I did perfectly fine with digiKam in the past, and nowadays I'm perfectly happy with ACDSee. ACDSee even shows thumbnails for Affinity Photo project files.

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[–] EddoWagt@feddit.nl 0 points 4 months ago

That's a completely different application. You could try darktable, its free and open source and really good imo. A bit more complicated than lightroom for editing, but also more powerful (apart from ai features, which it lacks)

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Then you can get permanent access for 165 USD (one-off payment)

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It goes on sale often. I think I got it for $50 a while back.

Easily worth it. Supporting a customer friendly business model is how we keep nice things.

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[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

Hmm. Think I would rather pirate Adobe.

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[–] vodkasolution@feddit.it 0 points 4 months ago (10 children)

Those who actually use it, can they write down a simple comparison?

[–] CatLikeLemming@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I did not use Photoshop particularly long, but I have been using the Affinity Suite both on a pc and a tablet for over a year now and can say it's definitely quite good. Everything is where you think it should be, the workflow feels very usable with no major learning curve (looking at you, GIMP), and overall the only thing I don't like about it is its lack of Linux support. I would assume that absolute professionals won't be able to find everything they like/want, but if you're reading this, chances are you're gonna be more than satisfied, if FOSS options don't quite work for you.

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[–] Coskii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 4 months ago

I checked it out last night. The photo editor is close enough to photoshop that I'll be glad to buy it. From my preliminary perusing of the tools and features, the only thing I used in photoshop that isn't in affinity photo was the ability to animate things. I'm sure there are some other more important details between the two, but as a hobbyist for graphic design it fits my needs just fine.

[–] twoface@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago

I have been using Affinity Photo for a couple of years now. Not in a professional way, just for some small personal things. Before buying Affinity Photo I used PS for the same purposes for a few years.

I don't see me going back to PS, since Affinity has everything I need. Sadly, I don't remember specifics, but a few things work a bit different in Affinity, but the workflow is quite similar.

Note that I am not using the latest version, so things might have changed.

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