The great arms race for your attention
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What this? I cant hear you over my high definition yt-dlp content.
Where i am going I haven’t needed a google account in over a year.
What will happen when ads are injected in the video stream directly.
The same thing that happened with sponsored segments.
Look forward to the day they require eye tracking & answering questions about the ads they showed
Then those prompts will be skipped. Just like you can skip age verification with user scripts
Please drink a verification can.
Sponsored segments are fixed. Injected ads won't be.
At that point i will either have to use an ai tool to scrub the filth out
Or
Consider if i really need whatever content is within it and touch some grass instead.
With yt-dlp? Skip them manually.
Like, my main issue with ads is all the tracking they do. If they add non-targeted ads to the video file I downloaded, whatever, I'll just fast forward through that part of the video.
Personally, I use Tubular on my phone ( Newpipe fork with sponsorBlock ), freetube on PC, and Smart tube on my android tv.
Point us towards salvation, Grand Master!
...where can i sign up..?
Are you familiar with Jellyfin?
If you can set up a server of this then its as easy as making the library folder the output folder for yt-dlp
https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp
I didnt even have to write me own script. I gave chatgpt a notepad with channel urls and just told it to write me code to load these urls one by one and download the Last 2 videos. (Trust me you dont want to accidentally download a whole channel). Yt dlp can maintain a log of sort so videos aren't downloaded more then once.
I run this script on a schedule and delete the video when i am done with it. Nice and clean. I can also recommend trying to run an invididious instance for general video browsing but mine took some twiddling to setup right.
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A møøse ønce bit my sister
Pøør sister!
So we have:
- Ad Blockers
- 'Ad Blocker' blockers
- ''Ad blocker' blocker' blockers
- '''Ad Blocker' blocker' blocker' blockers
- ''''Ad Blocker' blocker' blocker' blocker' blockers
- '''''Ad Blocker' blocker' blocker' blocker' blockers' blockers; and finally;
- ''''''Ad Blocker' blocker' blocker' blocker' blockers' blocker' blockers; with;
- '''''''Ad Blocker' blocker' blocker' blocker' blockers' blocker' blocker' blockers
in development.
It's like playing Uno; but with reverse cards only.
It's like playing Uno No Mercy, with only reverse-draw-10 cards
blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker
MUSHROOM MUSHROOM
blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker
(and when things go bad...)
Ad! Ad!! Oh, it's an ad. :(
Blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker blocker ...
Oh Great Cthulhu, we're old.
Hahaha good one, I use newpipe.amd no ads at all.
uBlock and YouTube got trace busters for their trace busters.
I’m glad I’m not the only one that remembers scenes from this terrible movie. This was the first thing that came to mind.
as a firefox user i cant give up and just installed freetube, exported everything from yt. its great
Blocker & Blocker
2 Blocker 2 Blocked
Blocker Tokyo Drift
...
Block of the Bockers; Return of the Blockings
BlocX
The Final Blocker
The Final Blocker 2: Electric Boogaloo
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So the final step is the internet blows up?
YouTube can definitely afford a war ship and pay people to shoot...we may have enough people to operate a death star for free but can we afford one ?
The image doesn't quite work because youtube needs a MASSIVE solution that works, scales, doesn't fuck up their infrastructure and on and on and on.
Meanwhile on the user front, all your doing essentially is just skipping parts of a video, that will always be infinitely cheaper easier to do. Challenging for sure, but the solution can be small.
Even something as stupid as delaying your video start by 1 min, pre buffering then skipping ads. It's brute force and barbaric but the point is that Google can't do shit against that.
My ultimate vision is AI that preloads videos you want and detects ads / sponsor segments and just skips them / cuts them out on your device.
Another way to think about it... YouTube has huge amounts of compute resources, but per user it's an extremely small amount. Your phone has orders of magnitude more power to dedicate to you than YouTube does. Collectively, we have more processing power than YouTube.
Mushroom mushroom
Ad ad oooohhhhh it’s an ad.
It's a big ad It's a big ad Fooooooorrr beer https://youtu.be/_wM2c3WtDjQ?si=7G_HBu8FMGMZpdoe
Mushroom mushroom badger badger
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Youtube is wasting ressources, it's a fight they can't win
Exactly this. They ALWAYS lose this fight.
nah, if they embed the ad into the video stream (they were testing this for some users!), the only adblocking option will be to blank out the screen and wait through the ad (or download the video in advance and edit the ad out automatically), both of which would make it a lot more annoying to adblock than currently.
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They have infinite resources. They're making gestures to dissuade casuals. I suspect this will get them most of the result they want. They're also wasting time, effort and resources of adblock programmers (and that is a far more limited resource).
If they had infinite resources, they wouldn't need to worry about adblockers.
They aren't worried about them. They are squeezing what they can out of the platform.
Iirc YouTube has a positive revenue now
Sure but as long as there is a least one dedicated bearded dude hidden in a dark underground room behind his screen, they will be defeated. No matter how much they spent on the new technology. What I mean is that devs might burn out, they will still be replaced by others. And we get such people faster than youtube is able to burn them out
Is Google Chrome fighting uBlock country-specific? I use Chrome on Win 10 with uBlock and haven't seen a YouTube ad outside of the mobile app in ages. For me, uBlock never stopped working in Chrome and I watch YouTube videos every 1-2 days.
Ublock publishes patches so fast you never had a problem
Wow, these guys are even more awesome than I thought then...
What of I told you there is an easier way of blocking ads: noscript.
I guess you haven't heard they're experimenting with injecting ads right into the videos on the server. Just turning off scripts won't do anything for that.
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