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[–] exanime@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Just signed up today for the family plan in my ongoing degoogling process

It's a bit pricey but so far loving it. Specially Proton Pass, coming from bitwarden (which I liked), it's nicer and faster, much faster

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (3 children)

And so what happens to your passwords if Proton were to go offline and you needed to continue using Proton Pass? Do they have an open source server you can use like Bitwarden does or vaultwarden? Or are you essentially locking yourself into a new walled garden for no reason other than name recognition? Why not just use KeePassXC which is encrypted locally rather than share your password with a third party who can easily capture your private key password?

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think a lot of these cloud-based password vaults will have a local database that syncs with the cloud. I think you can unlock them and access your passwords without internet access

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Keyword... unlock, not add information or use them offline where they can sync to an open source backend. They are cloud-based password managers that are designed to operate online. The backend is not open source. It is designed to lock you into a walled garden.

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[–] Alk@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Because of their integration with simplelogin.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Vaultwarden/Bitwarden integrate with SimpleLogin... and they offer other alias service providers as well.

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[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Proton Pass works offline. Proton isn't a walled garden.

[–] timewarp@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

It will cache credentials for a short time so you can still access some of your passwords. It will not let you add new credentials. It's like a web browser working in offline mode for a period of time. It is a cloud-based password manager with a closed-source server backend.

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[–] Manalith@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago

My only gripe with Proton Pass so far is that I'm used to Bitwarden's right-click autofill menu and some sites' 2FA codes don't automatically pop up for some reason.

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[–] spiderman@ani.social 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

It's all good but I wish they increase the storage for free tier a bit more

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[–] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Open source ? Does that mean I can host my own ? Would it be compatible with other self hosted instance ?

EDIT: the only source code I found hasn't been maintained for 3 years.

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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

They're just too expensive. Like, sure, it costs money to run, but 3.49€/month (the discounted 24 month rate) for the mail only plan, 15 GB storage. (41.88€, $45.17 USD, $67.28 AUD per year)

That's really expensive if you just want mail.

The other stuff, is also really expensive. To the point that makes you think, "there is no way google is making THIS much to make up the difference in advertising to me for a comparable plan".

[–] menemen@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If you just need an email account I'd suggest to have a look at posteo.de. I am with them for many years now. Price is good and terms also.

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[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 months ago (4 children)

The only open source mentioned in the post is their encryption. Not the document editing software. OP please remove your change to the article title, it's extremely misleading.

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[–] bquintb@midwest.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Awesome...I can move my budget over to my proton.me account now.

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[–] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

A lot of people confuse open source with community driven/governed.
If things go awry, you'll be locked-in, married to Proton.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do you mean? You'd just export your data.

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