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How stupid do you have to be to believe that only 8% of companies have seen failed AI projects? We can't manage this consistently with CRUD apps and people think that this number isn't laughable? Some companies have seen benefits during the LLM craze, but not 92% of them. 34% of companies report that generative AI specifically has been assisting with strategic decision making? What the actual fuck are you talking about?

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I don't believe you. No one with a brain believes you, and if your board believes what you just wrote on the survey then they should fire you.

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[–] dumples@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I've been a professional data scientist for 5+ years and I'm okay at my job. Good enough to get 3 different jobs at non FAANG companies and I have already 3 or so hype trains and name changes of what words we use for the same tools and techniques. This AI hype is going to be another one of these with a few niche cases.

Most of my job is insisting on doing something correctly and then being told that doesn't give the "correct" response based on leadership expectations. I just change what I do until I get the results that people want to see. I'll just ride this hype wave out here for a few years here learning nothing new again. I'll find another job based on my experience and requirements gathering to start the cycle again. Maybe I'll get more data engineering skills which are actually valid

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Similarly, my current job (now ending as they want to end remote work and I don't want to move to a desert in a very red/religious area)- I guided them out of "block chain for supply chain" (lmao it's cringe to even say that now) into "AI for productivity automation"

I give it 3 years max before all mentions of AI are scrubbed from the home oahe.

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[–] morbidcactus@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm a data engineer/architect and it's the same over here, I get asked constantly "how can we stuff AI into this solution?", never "should we consider using AI here? Is there a value?", my view, people don't understand their data and don't want to put in the effort to understand their data and think that it'll magically pull actionable insights from their dataswamp, nothing new, that's been a constant for as long as I recall.

Like I totally understand the draw of new and exciting, but there's so much you can do with traditional analytics, and in my view you really need to have a good foundation before doing anything else.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (5 children)

Hacker News was silencing this article outright. That's typically a sign that its factual enough to strike a nerve with the potential CxO libertarian [slur removed] crowd.

If this is satire, I don't see it. Because i've seen enough of the GenAI crowd openly undermine society/the environment/the culture and be brazen about it; violence is a perfectly normal response.

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Fascinating, I am not surprised at all.

Even beyond AI, some of the implicit messaging has got to strike a nerve with that kind of crowd.

I don't think this is satire either, more like a playful rant (as opposed to a formal critique).

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What happened to HN? I have now heard HN silencing cetain posts multiple times. Is this enshittification?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

HN is run by a VC firm, Y Combinator. One of its largest supporters is OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. Do the math.

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[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What. When did we start censoring shit on lemmy.

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)
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[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We need AI because it's convenient to blame for any problems.

[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

That is some good stuff actually. All the haters can focus on non-existent AI and the rest of us can work on improving society while they are distracted. Perfect scapegoat.

[–] widw@ani.social 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is actually more terrifying than you might have intended.

I've long thought that the greatest danger AI poses is going to be the "man behind the curtain" effect. If people can blame everything on AI then AI can be a blanket covering deliberate harm.

Imagine if government starts using AI for decision making. You could easily end up with a "man behind the curtain" who's actually calling all the shots and just pretending it's the AI doing it. Then you'd effectively have a dictatorship where nobody knows/believes they're in a dictatorship.

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[–] demonsword@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

very interesting read, thank you

[–] tron@midwest.social 0 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Oh my god this whole post is amazing, thought I'd share my favorite excerpt:

This entire class of person is, to put it simply, abhorrent to right-thinking people. They're an embarrassment to people that are actually making advances in the field, a disgrace to people that know how to sensibly use technology to improve the world, and are also a bunch of tedious know-nothing bastards that should be thrown into Thought Leader Jail until they've learned their lesson, a prison I'm fundraising for. Every morning, a figure in a dark hood7, whose voice rasps like the etching of a tombstone, spends sixty minutes giving a TedX talk to the jailed managers about how the institution is revolutionizing corporal punishment, and then reveals that the innovation is, as it has been every day, kicking you in the stomach very hard.

Where the fuck do I donate???????

[–] Alphane_Moon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah, this one is the bomb.

[–] WldFyre@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] pyldriver@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Right as in the actual definition of the word, no political

Conforming with or conformable to justice, law, or morality.

In accordance with fact, reason, or truth; correct.

Fitting, proper, or appropriate.

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[–] Spesknight@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Hey, we can always say: how can you check if an AI is working, it doesn't come to the office? 🤔

[–] sasquash@sopuli.xyz 0 points 5 months ago

very interesting read thx for sharing. glad finally someone who actually knows something about "AI" said it.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I work in AI as a software engineer. Many of my peers have PhD's, and have sunk a lot of research into their field. I know probably more than the average techie, but in the grand scheme of things I know fuck all. Hell, if you were to ask the scientists I work with if they "know AI" they'll probably just say "yeah, a little".

Working in AI has exposed me to so much bullshit, whether it's job offers for obvious scams that'll never work, or for "visionaries" that work for consultancies that know as little about AI as the next person, but market themselves as AI experts. One guy had the fucking cheek to send me a message on LinkedIn to say "I see you work in AI, I'm hosting a webinar, maybe you'll learn something".

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot of cool stuff out there, and some companies are doing some legitimately cool stuff, but the actual use-cases for these tools where they won't just be productivity enhancers/tools is low at best. I fully support this guy's efforts to piledrive people, and will gladly lend him my sword.

[–] alphacyberranger@sh.itjust.works 0 points 5 months ago

Same here. I have seen and worked in entire projects based on AI bullshit.

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[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

It's consistently pretty good for writing items with low technical importance and minimal need for accuracy.

I'll never write a job description myself again and my need for getting with communications for mass correspondence is almost gone.

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