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The long-awaited day is here: Apple has announced that its Messages app will support RCS in iOS 18. The move comes after years of taunting, cajoling, and finally, some regulatory scrutiny from the EU.

Right now, when people on iOS and Android message each other, the service falls back to SMS — photos and videos are sent at a lower quality, messages are shortened, and importantly, conversations are not end-to-end encrypted like they are in iMessage. Messages from Android phones show up as green bubbles in iMessage chats and chaos ensues.

Apple’s announcement was likely an effort to appease EU regulators.

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[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

I don't know if it's a good thing... To use RCS you have to use a compatible OS + device and use the google messages app (maybe also the Samsung one now) and why does the brand implemented this is because google "offered" the servers to run this protocol. I think even today the best way is to get onto secure messaging apps (like Signal, Session, SimpleX...)

[–] bloodfart@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 months ago

I’m gonna wait to see how this is implemented but it sounds bad on the face of it.

[–] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm still of the opinion that the basic message app should only be SMS.
Then anything else should be its own thing. Mixing the two is a recipe for disaster, where it's a consumer product.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Counterpoint: SMS shouldn’t exist, and RCS is our best shot at replacing it right now

[–] PlusMinus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What? SMS is a proven standard that works reliably. Why do we need to replace that? I tried RCS twice, in both cases the other end did not receive my message or at a later time. Even if SMS needed replacement, RCS is not it.

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[–] starman@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

RCS is proprietary, right?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No but also yes.

The spec itself is open, but implementations that are in the wild aren't. Google's implementation is proprietary, for example.

On Android, Google has went out of their way to make other RCS implementations virtually impossible to implement. Samsung, for example, had to enter an agreement with Google to use their implementation, otherwise they'd have no RCS.

As of now, the easiest way to implement RCS outside of using Google's proprietary implementation is to create your own OS and RCS implementation for it.

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[–] PsyDoctah9Jah@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

RCS is crap, inconsistent, unreliable, lacking, buggy. It doesn't even handle Dual SIM .....

Android needed a native "iMessage" style solution at least 10 years ago.

I can buy a $99 flip phone, basic phone, up to a $1,500 premium device, SMS/MMS will function the same across all 3 devices. RCS however will not. So how is this the answer to advanced messaging on Android? It isn't.....

If Google bought BBM & made it their own when it was still relevant in the consumer space, made it native on all Android 10 devices & later with SMS/MMS fall back, this would be something! Damn I miss BlackBerry....

RCS is not seamless, not native, and it simply is not it. It's the 1 thing I hate about Android, as creative and customizable as the software is, we need more.....I hate what Apple represents in the consumer space and how people often think who use an iPhone which makes me never want one.....

The moment Google saw the exclusivity Apple was doing, Android should have followed suite.

RCS sucks.....

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I just want my gf to have the same SMS app as me so she can see the silly emoji animations I see 😢

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then why not use the same app?

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

iOS/Android

No iOS version of the app I use. Hopefully rcs is the floodgate. 🤞

She uses generic ass iMessage anyways. She'll come around :)

[–] discount_door_garlic@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Signal is better than any other common alternative, and its on both android and ios

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yeah but the 😮 react isn't hilarious.

[–] skulblaka@startrek.website 0 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Signal also does jack all unless both parties are using Signal. In this case, might be fine. Need to talk to anyone else in your life? It's back to iMessage.

I love Signal and will probably never get rid of it but the use case for it has shrunk tremendously since they removed the ability to message non-signal users.

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[–] ian@feddit.uk 0 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I guess, if I'm on Android, this will make no difference to me?

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[–] dorumon@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Man it's a shame that Google RCS doesn't run on android phones by default if you have a custom rom or rooted your device or have an unlocked bootloader. Guess this won't really affect me then and it doesn't really matter.

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