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I have an account on an SMTP server. The server has a storage quota. I'd like the delete stuff from the server but keep it locally in case I need it. Just in case.

I'd like to be able to access the mail somehow on other computers and hopefully mobile devices on my network so that it can be searched when needed. I'm not sure what the best interface for that would be. A webmail client?

One option would be to use Thunderbird or another client to download the mail once in a while but disable deleting local messages when they are removed from the server. Would Thunderbird store the messages in a format I can use readily with other applications? Or should I use something else to download the mail?

What about situations where messages are moved from one folder to another on the server? Would I get a duplicate locally of the message appearing in both locations? Not sure how the storage and metadata actually are.

Also, is it possible in such a situation to put a message back on the server if I realize it was deleted in error?

Any idea would be welcome. I am a bit stuck.

I can use the command line comfortably but ideally I'd have a solution that doesn't rely on the terminal to find find messages and such. I don't really like terminal mail clients.

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[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I still have every email I've ever received, going back now more than 20 years. My solution isn't terribly fancy, but it gets the job done.

I have a Synology here at home running a mail server. You don't need a Synology specifically, just a simple mail server with access to a lot of disk space. The server isn't on the Open web or anything and doesn't support SMTP. It's just running IMAP to serve the local mail around the house.

I connect to it from Thunderbird on my various machines. I also use Thunderbird to connect to my actual mail servers to do my day-to-day mail stuff.

Every six months or so, I move old mail messages from my actual mail servers over to the archival one. Generally, I keep the mail on the archival server in folders; one per year, that keeps the loading time to a minimum. For example, come January 1st 2024, I'll be moving mail from January 2023 - June 2023 to the /2023 folder on the archive.

Searching is done via Thunderbird just like you search any mail account, and on my desktop machine, I let Thunderbird keep copies of the mail locally for quick searching. On my laptop though, I ask it to not keep copies to save disk space.

[–] chillytuna@universeodon.com 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

@danielquinn @crank That's pretty cool. How much storage does 20 years of personal emails actually take up?

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

It's actually not as crazy as you might think:

$ du -sh .Maildir/
13G	.Maildir/

That's going back to ~~2000~~ 1995, both sent & received. The first email I have in there is from a friend of mine offering to send me an MP3 she downloaded.

[–] chillytuna@universeodon.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@danielquinn Is that just for text or also for images & attachments? Either way, yeah, 13G is a tiny amount of space when you consider how much info is in there! I wish I had done something similar.

[–] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

In most cases, it's everything. I've made mistakes over the years, screwing up a transfer or when migrating between servers, and I expect I probably lost some attachments here and there, but yeah, it's everything.

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