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[–] QHC@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Russia and Iran have already won this round. Palestinians will be paying the price.

[–] Lemmylaugh@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
[–] progbob@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Was pondering the same kinda question when Osama bin Laden was accused to be the guy behind the 911 attacks. The Bush administration was pushing that terrorist threat narrative claiming Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. (that of course were never found) He was ultimately denied to go to war by Congress because of insufficient proof of that. So, how come an allegedly educated guy like ObL (that came from a good family with business ties to the Bush family) could not have foreseen that the 911 attacks would ultimately give Bush exactly what he wanted..? At that point he was already on the run. Shouldn't he have known that an American invasion of Iraq would ultimately destabilise the Muslim world and give America further strategic advantages..?!! The outcome could in no way have suited someone considered to be a Muslim extremist, yes or no??!

[–] Chetzemoka@startrek.website 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're repeating the propaganda that Osama bin Laden was somehow connected to Iraq. Why would Iraq have factored into his calculations at all? Bin Laden wanted the US military out of Saudi Arabia and the fall of the Saudi royal family who he saw as traitors to Islam. He also thought terrorist attacks would unite Muslims from different countries and cultures against "the west," which of course was a pipe dream. But he had no particular reason to expect reprisal against Iraq for 9/11 because Iraq had not one fucking thing to do with it. That war was 100% lies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_views_of_Osama_bin_Laden

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/miller.html

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