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[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (49 children)

They've already banned menthol in California and it did nothing. Alternatives are already being marketed and sold and some of the better ones recreate the exact same effect but cost $1.20 more per pack at the low end. To put it simply, this is dumb as fuck.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 year ago (48 children)

The point is to make cigarettes as expensive and unappealing as possible.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (47 children)

That's not in anyone's own interests. Smokers have to pay more, tobacco industry gets more money. Literally a lose-lose. Dumb. As. Fuck.

[–] cjsolx@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay so here we are speculating about this, but there's data on this isn't there? Is it not the case that countries who tax tobacco more have all but eliminated it? I'm not well versed on the subject, but I think it's a bit silly to just pull this out of your ass as if it were fact. Here's a link to an ncbi article that talks about it. I'm sure there's plenty more out there to show one way or the other, so I'm interested to know whether you have anything to back up your stance.

[–] stonedemoman@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, and I agree that this should be approached with scepticism and not blind bias.

I'm basing this off tobacco being the third most addictive substance on the planet.

Being that dependent on a substance suggests that practical decision-making and rational thinking, such as adding motivation to quit through price, is certainly not going to be the most effective way to reduce dependency while also further harming those that fail to break their dependency.

Edit: Also I just want to point out, again, that I was never referring to tax. From what I saw there's not enough conclusive data for me to form an opinion one way or the other on the effectiveness of increasing tobacco tax . All of my comments are about this ridiculously assanine ban, or the increased prices that come as a result of this ban.

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