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don't dogpile them. i just wanted to vent.

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[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

He's not running as a spoiler. He's running as a leftist.

[–] BigilusDickilus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

To what end? Him running ultimately only helps the GOP. If the green party wants to advance progressive policy, they should focus on creating infrastructure to become an actual block that democrats need to work with. Siphoning votes away only helps republicans, Ralph Nader got George W. Bush elected as much as Gore's shitty campaign did.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ralph Nader got George W. Bush elected as much as Gore’s shitty campaign did.

gore won that election.

[–] BigilusDickilus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I agree with you, but it would not have been within the margin of fuckery that allowed Florida to happen had Nader not be on the ballot. Gore did run a shit campaign though, all he really had to do was ask people if they were better off than they were in 92 and promise a continuation of the core of the Clinton policies and he would have won. Instead, he focused on distancing himself from a still very popular president and not being charismatic and largely allowed himself to be put in the position he ended up in.

It was my first election as an adult, Nader came to my college and gave his "both parties are the same" speech and I bought it because I was a dumb ass at the time and in fairness it was a lot closer to the truth then than it has been since.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

this is pure speculation. there is no way to know what would have happened in a world where Nader wasn't on the ballot. in such a world Donald Trump might have been the Republican nominee that year. you simply don't know.

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