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I have been reading about internet privacy for a long time. As time went on, I got a vpn subcription, a custom domain, a paid email hosting, etc. No regrets on the services themselves.

I recently had this conversation with a colleague of mine, complaining about the rising cost of everything including internet subscription services: netflix, spotify, youtube, you name it. I could simply disregard my colleague's complaints as I didn't have any of those and know the ways of obtaining materials. However, once I start adding up the privacy related services I'm willingly paying instead... they also add up into a considerable amount.

So, do you pay for anything privacy related, how much do you pay in total, and is it affordable for you? For example, many VPN providers offer yearly subscriptions around 40-50 USD.

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[–] randompepsi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Like what? It’s not like your are more anonymous for doing that, and you lose complete ownership.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

You're seriously asking what benefits hosting my own email and cloud has over using 'free' services like gmail? Not letting google scan my emails is not a benefit privacy wise?

[–] randompepsi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

No I am not, I am asking why you are hosting that on a rented VPS instead of your own server

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because it's easier, more practical and cheaper.

[–] randompepsi@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a dead end, I am asking you of privacy benefits of a VPS and you say ”all of them” but you give me none. What’s the point?

[–] magnus@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I think the answer you are looking for is less privacy oriented than OP understands it to be. The benefit of renting computational resources someplace outside your control is e.g. that it allows you to send mails to known providers which otherwise would refuse your mail if you would sent them originatig from a private IP address or e.g. having a always on cloud storage without running a computer in your basement 24/7 etc.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

None? I explained that the benefit is I'm not using a 'free', public service that scans my data. If you didn't get this very simple, clearly stated benefit than yes, this is a dead end.

[–] randompepsi@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get that, but that is not what I asked for. So yeah, dead end :P

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I assume what you're getting at is that there has to be an element of trust in that the server being remote you can't be 100% sure it's untampered with?

Much the same rationale can be applied to VPN's, private email, private domain registration. At some point you have to do your research and decide if you trust the provider or not. There are providers out there that allow anonymous renting via Monero payments etc and also allow you to install OS's based on an image you control as oppose to the standard ones they offer. If you combine that with private domain registration and connecting whilst on a good VPN that's much more private than something like GMail.

And yes you could do all that from a home based server but then you're dependant on your ISP always being up etc.

[–] randompepsi@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Thank you, I appreciate your non-douchy response

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