this post was submitted on 08 Sep 2023
59 points (76.1% liked)

Asklemmy

43947 readers
685 users here now

A loosely moderated place to ask open-ended questions

Search asklemmy ๐Ÿ”

If your post meets the following criteria, it's welcome here!

  1. Open-ended question
  2. Not offensive: at this point, we do not have the bandwidth to moderate overtly political discussions. Assume best intent and be excellent to each other.
  3. Not regarding using or support for Lemmy: context, see the list of support communities and tools for finding communities below
  4. Not ad nauseam inducing: please make sure it is a question that would be new to most members
  5. An actual topic of discussion

Looking for support?

Looking for a community?

~Icon~ ~by~ ~@Double_A@discuss.tchncs.de~

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

A UK Member of Parliament recently suggested that there should be a Government minister for men which would presumably do similar things to the existsing minister for Women.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/reactions-pour-in-as-mp-renews-calls-for-official-minister-for-men-356501/

This has thrown up a series of heated discussions on social media about whether this is part of the 'backlash' against feminsm, or whether there is a legitimate need for wider support of men's issues.

As a man who believes that there are legitimate issues disproportionately affecting men which should be addressed, what I really want help in understanding is the opinion that men don't need any targetted support.

I don't want to start a big argument, but I do want to understand this perspective, because I have struggled to understand it before and I don't like feeling like I'm missing something.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[โ€“] Kichae@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Here's the thing, though: Whenever you have a position like "Person for Group", that Group is being singled out for a reason.

And that reason is lack of representation.

To put it another way, so have a Minister for Women is a tacit acknowledgement that the others operate as if men are the default person. All of the other ministers are Ministers for Men.

[โ€“] charonn0@startrek.website 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Isn't this basically the same as arguing that men don't deserve or need help?

[โ€“] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, you're arguing that "all lives matter". You're missing the point.

[โ€“] charonn0@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No I'm not. And no I'm not.

load more comments (3 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)