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Hobby Drama

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A community for the drama, big and small, in hobby groups.

RULES

  1. BE KIND. No bigotry, flaming, trolling, etc. Do not brigade (remember we are outside observers)!
  2. NO DOXXING. Do not post addresses, real names, etc of individuals. Exceptions are made for public figures (eg celebrities) and companies, but keep it relevant.
  3. 14 DAY RULE. When making a post drama should be concluded for at least 14 days to make sure it's fully concluded and give a complete scope to posts. The exception to this is the weekly Hobby Round Up megathread which this rule does not apply to.
  4. INCLUDE CONSEQUENCES. When posting include what the drama means for the community. "The state of the game is worse off and players are leaving" is better than "and everyone was mad the end".
  5. KEEP OUT BIAS. If you are one of the main participants in the drama don't post, this isn't a community for validation seeking. If you're a peripheral (eg you're in the hobby and have an opinion, but aren't the one the drama is about, leading a petition drive, etc) posting is fine. Strive to be objective in your write-up.
  6. NSFW. If a hobby or drama is NSFW mark the post as such.
  7. REPOSTS. Reposts should be clearly marked with [REPOST] in the title and a link to the original post at the top or bottom of the post. Posts that don't follow this rule will be warned and then removed if the requested changes aren't made.
  8. TITLE GUIDELINES. Titles should include the following tags as appropriate:

An example title would be: [Video Games][Old School Runescape] The hat scandal OR [Repost][History][Music] Fyre Festival controversies

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Hello! Your friendly mod PassingDuchy again with a few community updates!

Reddit and Discord Hobby Drama communities

I did reach out to both communities. The response from both is that they're not interested in affiliating. As such we won't be linking to either community in the sidebar to respect their wishes. Going forward please don't send either community messages about partnering with this community (though I appreciate everyone who did! It was a big help).

Reposting

Based on the previous discussion post we will be encouraging an opt-out request be sent to authors, but not requiring. The only requirement currently is that the full text is reposted and a link to the original post is included at the top or bottom of the repost.

14 Day Rule

The 14 day rule for all drama being concluded (outside of Round Up) will remain instituted.

Post Titles

As Lemmy doesn't currently have flairs/tags, we will be requiring a little extra work on post titles to help community searchability. Your title must include:

  • [Repost] for reposts from another community (reddit or otherwise). Reposts must include the full text and a link to the original post at the top or bottom of the repost. At this time non-text posts (podcasts, YouTube videos, etc) are not allowed. If you want to link those you may link them in the weekly Hobby Round Up.
  • A [History] tag if your post is a professional history related to a hobby. History is for only professionals having drama with no hobbyists involved (industry drama). This is a little extra work, but a compromise for people who are solely here to read about hobbyists and not industry drama. Ex. A post about the history of F1 would be [History], but a post about fan efforts to have a specific racer removed would be hobbyist drama.
  • [Hobby] please keep this to the general hobby eg video games, knitting, board games, TV shows, music, apparel, etc.
  • OPTIONAL [Specific Hobby] this is mostly useful for designating a specific fandom, band, brand, platform, etc (eg if your write-up general hobby is music, you might put Taylor Swift here to note the drama is about her specific fandom).
  • We will not be requiring markers for post length. If your post exceeds the character count and needs to be continued in the comments, please link to the continued comment chain in your main post (currently mods can't pin other users' comments so we can't assist here).
  • A full title should look something like: [Video Games][Old School Runescape] The hat scandal OR [Repost][History][Music] Fyre Festival controversies.

Hobby Round Up/Scuffles

A general megapost for all breaking hobby drama (14 day rule will not apply), news, chat, posts that don't fit the rules, links to articles/podcasts/videos, etc will go up on Mondays (I'm currently looking into figuring out an automod bot to do this to ensure regularity). I've changed the name to Round Up in the hope that users who use both the Lemmy and Reddit communities will see the different title in their tabs and have less confusion when posting between both.

Hobby Town Hall/Community Discussion

Hobby Community Discussion will be like the subreddit's Town Hall and go up on the first of the month. As we are a smaller community this will go up on the monthly first to be used for a four month period and be pinned for the duration. Community suggestions, improvements and concerns should be posted to Community Discussion. If possible please use reports for any immediate concerns as the mod team can coordinate best for immediate response via the modlog. Our first Community Discussion will go up on September 1st 2023 and last until the next one on January 1st 2024.

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[–] Emotional_Series7814@kbin.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It’s kind of frustrating that Reddit and Discord don’t want to do anything with us. It would help numbers-wise, but no, stay on Discord which is bad for searching and Reddit where we tried to have an exodus from. Now all the content is on Reddit and all we have is reposts. Which encourages people to go crawling back to Reddit if they want content and aren’t hardcore principled about staying off.

Which includes me: I keep trying to be active on the Fediverse and to help it grow, but there are lots of niche communities there that don’t exist here. I’d make them myself but I’m very much not cut out for a moderation role.

I know I should make more content myself. However, I’m not seeing much drama in my hobbies right now despite heavily immersing myself in them. I could actively look for drama in hobbies I don’t participate in to write up here, but honestly I don’t feel like it.

[–] PassingDuchy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's definitely frustrating. I'd understand if the modteam (same ones are top mods for the subreddit and the discord I was told) have a plan for a different space, but I didn't see any replies from them on reddit or the discord unfortunately beyond their post on the subreddit for the most part.

I did advertise on !newcommunities@lemmy.world and I've been keeping an eye out for asklemmy threads about community recs, so hopefully we can get some more organic growth continuing forward. I am unfortunately in the same boat of having currently quiet hobbies though. I mainly TTRPG and Wizards decided to blow their drama in the beginning of the year unfortunately lol.

[–] Emotional_Series7814@kbin.cafe 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I forgot to say this in my original comment: the extremely frustrating part is that they did protest. They shut down the sub on Reddit. But they won’t do the actual effective way to hurt Reddit: by moving to its alternatives, and/or helping those who moved.

I get it, it’s just Reddit, it’s not like going to the website is breaking a real picket line workers made to get better wages, but it’s still frustrating.