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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (29 children)

That's not a good sign for Ukraine in what is an attrition war. Even their own military is making plans to smuggle their men out if the country because they don't want to send them to the death trap that is the heavily reinforced WW1 like frontlines. And Zelensky's response is just to fire and try replace the people doing that, instead of looking as to why that is happening. If the counter offensive tactics are so dire that your own military is doing corruption to avoid sending men to the front, maybe that needs reassessment.

Zelenskiy said a state investigation into centres across Ukraine had exposed abuses by officials ranging from illegal enrichment to transporting draft-eligible men across the border despite a wartime ban on them leaving the country.

[–] sxan@midwest.social 9 points 1 year ago (28 children)

I don't think you're necessarily wrong, and I'm certainly no expert. However, I do know that Ukraine has long struggled with corruption, and has been making slow progress over the past couple of decades. And they will always have (there are always, in any conflict) a certain level of partisanship in their own ranks.

I've been mildly concerned about what could happen after the invasion; assuming Ukraine is successful, Zelenskyy's popularity could make it easy for him to transition into a dictatorship. However, so far I've seen little to indicate that he's anything other than a sincere, effective, and passionate leader -- I like the guy, and I'm inclined to trust his judgement. He's done unexpectedly well so far, and Ukraine under his leadership has been acting up to the highest ethical ideals of the EU.

Maybe Ukraine leadership is making a mistake, but maybe they know something us armchair Generals don't.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't see his pandering to the EU as stumbling backwards into this whole situation in the first place?

I understand that it comes across as provocative, but from what I understand about his (attempted) maneuvering over the past couple years, he's kind of a spineless and weak leader who trusted the wrong side and got his country embroiled in a massive conflict.

NATO and the US are not trustworthy allies, and they let him talk up "Ukraine joining NATO ", a very dangerous thing to do, but I don't believe they had any intention of letting them in at any point. Zelensky should have understood this.

[–] Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

got his country embroiled in a massive conflict.

Russia already invaded ukraine and took control of crimea 5 years before Zelensky became president.

To view this invasion as totally separate and then blame Zelensky for getting invaded is kinda insane to me.

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