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Hey remember when some people who self reported as leftists were saying this guy was going to stop the genocide?
Because I sure do.
I mean most of them were instead saying there was no difference between the two candidates, which is also incorrect but a lot less so (leaving a shit situation unresolved despite having the means to help != actively making it worse. Even if both suck).
But I sure as fuck saw some people, in self described leftist spaces, saying Trump was going to end the war.
So far Trump has been objectively better on Gaza than Biden was. The fact that BlueMAGA liberals are actually acknowledging and condemning the USA governments genocidal actions now, rather than denying and defending them like they did under Biden, is just icing on the cake.
Trump reversed Biden's economic sanctions on Israeli occupiers in illegal settlement.
Trump reversed Biden's withholding of shipments of 2000 lb bombs.
Trump is now saying instead of a 2 state solution that all Palestinians should be forcibly removed from Gaza, and that the US should own it.
Trump is further declining to assert that no US troops would be involved in the forcible removal of Palestinians from their land.
In what fucking lunatic universe is any of this better for Palestinians?
It's two states, but boy, we didn't expect the US to be one of them!
the universe where they're not being genocided by people who keep saying that they wish they could stop arming the genocide but won't because of the feels.
Notice how you only care about symbolic gestures and rhetoric, rather than things that actually matter like number of dead and displaced.
It's a good reminder that BlueMAGA liberals don't actually think of Palestine as a real place or Palestinians as real people. You care more about what your politicians say about it than what they do.
No I care that Trump is giving Israel more weapons, more money, open approval for genocide, and now floating US troops doing the genocide directly instead of humanitarian aid and logistics. But you haven't let reality influence so far so I don't expect it to now either.
Nah, no you don't, as evidenced by the fact that you don't care about the people actually being killed. You only care about the symbolic factor.
Yeah, exactly: you care more about what your politicians say than what they do.
This is very rich coming from someone who thinks a politicians rhetoric is more real than the actual facts on the ground in Gaza.
he's also slowed down the genocide, which is something that biden couldn't even manage to do and that alone automatically makes him better.
the only mental gymnastics performed here is giving your support to the people to are giving weapons to genociders, but continue to say that they wish they could stop.
I do not know any other way to tell you that actions matter more than rhetoric. You're basically complaining that, unlike the Democrats, Trump doesn't tell you comforting lies.
Yes, correct. This should be obvious to anyone who realizes that Palestinians are real, flesh and blood humans.
And you've been tripping over yourself defending genocide the last fifteen months.
I don't get to vote, I do get to have my family members killed by the people you vote for though
Every accusation is a confession with BlueMAGA libs.
Nah, you don't care about what happens to Palestine. You're fine with it being annihilated so long as the people doing it clothe it in soothing rhetoric. In fact, seems like you want Trump to be worse than the Democrats, just so you can say "I told you so". Seems like you want it so bad that you're ignoring objective facts about what's actually happening.
Really? Because so far it seems like you take him at his word. Now if only you could see through the Democrats bullshit.
Of course; you'd need to recognized them as existing before you could hate them.
Lol, someone get the Satre quote.
Amazing
You must be from a fascinating alternate reality where the sky is red and fire makes things cold and people wear hats on their feet
It's very revealing of their mindset that BlueMAGA liberals consider Trump calling for ethnic cleansing to be worse that Democrats actually doing ethnic cleansing. Though, of course, to you people, foreigners aren't human and Palestine isn't a real place, so it's all just talk to you.
People usually do the thing they're saying they're going to do, you know.
Especially when they have the power to do it.
Yes, famously Trump has never said he'd do something and not done it, lol.
Though that's beside the point anyway, we are talking about now, and the things that Trump and Biden have actually done, not things that haven't happened.
Though, of course, BlueMAGA liberals think Palestine is a fictional place, so to you, none of these things have happened.
My sibling in Satan I'm not even american, in fact I'm hoping your cancer of a fucking country fucking ends itself in the next decade.
But in the meantime saying the guy who is currently in the process of finishing the job of displacing and killing millions has "actually done a lot better in the now" is
... You're either trolling or really REALLY fucking stupid.
Either way there is no point in talking to you.
That just makes you being a BlueMAGA fanatic even more embarrassing.
I'm not American, but if that's how you feel, Trump is certainly making your dream more likely to become reality.
Less people are dying by far now than they were under Biden, and the people who were ethnically cleansed from Northern Gaza are returning thanks to Trump's ceasefire. These are objective realities.
But of course, you care far more about what Trump says than what the Democrats do. Because Palestinians aren't real to you, it's all just a television show.
Still coping I see.
Most of the people roasting you here aren’t liberals. They’re anarchists, socialists, actual leftists that have always condemned the harm the US is causing. Just not dumbasses.
You sound just as dumb as the MAGAts calling people woke.
Bullshit, if you care more about Orange Man Bad than the well being of Palestinians, you are not a fucking leftist.
The well being of the Palestinians hinged on the unhingedness of bad orange man.
Yeah, and so far he's been less unhinged than the Democrats you supported.
Calling for ethnic cleansing is better?
it doesn't matter, both parties are pro-genocide. trump explicitly saying it, and USians doing nothing about it precisely confirms that USians do not care anyways. At least now USians don't have plausible deniability to hide behind.
As ever, BlueMAGA libs care more about what politicians say than what they do.
Bold of you to accuse people of being MAGA while actively praising Trump.
And you criticize calling for ethnic cleansing while actively praising the people who actually did ethnic cleansing.
Biden didn't put any pressure on Israel. In fact, Trump has already put more on when he secured a ceasefire.
Genocide denier.
If by "created by the Biden administration" you mean it was the same one that Biden didn't bother to force Israel to accept, then yes.
Given that Trump was willing to actually pull lightly on Bibis leash, yes.
As an aside, what's your opinion on the war in Ukraine?
I'm opposed to it. Now stay on topic.
I'm just suspicious because your use of MAGA as an insult while praising Donald Trump is so absurdly inconsistent it looks like deliberate dishonesty.
Ok. Or you're just an idiot.