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[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

And then of course, there should be ways to make money in Free / Libre to convince those who care only about how big their pockets are. Donations do not cut it. They are good, but they feel pathetic in comparison to what a proprietary alternative makes. There should be a way to make money without restricting freedom.

they make that money because our system restricts that freedom and it's intentional.

ever since i became a software developer, my work has been 100% based off of extending the capabilities of open source projects beyond their base capabilities that's available to the public. (ie turning it from a hobby project into enterprise worthy product). my task masters make billions of dollars off of the efforts of those volunteers who will never see a dime or even be aware of the details needed to get their fair share that they rightly deserve. the legal "protections" put in place to help open source projects like gnu or copy-left licenses is so easily curtailed that my management and senior engineers literally laugh at it sometimes when deciding which scraps are useless enough not to make money for the company and then report it back to comply with the copy-left. those things that they report back are MINUSCULE compared to what they actually have and they milk it to look like they're actually compliant.

the people who are aware of this fact are, like me, are trapped into legally binding non-disclosure agreements resulting in thousands of us who are aware that we're profiting off the blood, sweat, and tears of people like you and our system assures us that our livelihoods & freedom will be permanently altered in some of the worst ways possible if we made you aware of exactly how we profited. this is one of those evils that i felt i could no longer keep doing, which is one the core reason why i want to stop doing this.

like you, i don't think that they're bad people. it's simply that your environment determines your actions and these people are so placed that they're disconnected from the impacts of what their actions are having on humanity because of those ridiculously high salaries; this encourages their worst, material impulses and makes them believe that anyone doing what i'm doing is simply a malcontent or a shitty developer. it's a open secret in my industry that a lot of people do what i'm doing and the most privileged among us will sometimes derisively use groupthink "common sense" stereotypes to attack the person doing it; it's so bad that most who do it have learned to say that they want a "change" or to "give back" to help them keep the door open should they decide to ever return.

[–] blenderdumbass@lm.madiator.cloud 1 points 4 days ago (5 children)

My view on this all is something like this:

  • Users should have their freedoms to use, change, share the program. Even if they are doing it for profit. Even if those users are corporations.
  • Copyleft is useful to make it so when those who share, share, their versions of the same program is also Libre. It is not about protecting the developer. It is to insure the user still has the freedom.
  • One is not required to share. So if I make a version of the program that works for me, I am under no obligation to give anyone a copy of it. ( But under copyleft, if I do, I need this copy to be libre )

So I can withhold giving away my copy until I get paid. Basically I don't even release anything until I get what I want from the deal. And I can do that for every change I make. But as soon as I make what I wan and release it, everything is libre from the beginning.

I can use screenshots or videos to prove that I have a working piece of software. And tease what are the changes I made.

The question now is, can there be a platform to streamline this process?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago (4 children)

i think the bigger question is why we rely on honor systems when history proves that corporations don't have any.

[–] blenderdumbass@lm.madiator.cloud 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I think copyleft was just something too clever not to try for Richard Stallman. But yeah, corporation are doing anything they can to get around it.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

i didn't know that he was behind it; the licensing details are confusing to me as all legalese is.

[–] blenderdumbass@lm.madiator.cloud 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Richard Stallman very likes recursions. This is why GNU ( something he named ) is a recursive acronym. And GPL ( something he came up with ) is a recursive license.

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

i don't know much about stallman; but little i do know makes me inclined to agree with this. lol

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