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“Passkeys,” the secure authentication mechanism built to replace passwords, are getting more portable and easier for organizations to implement thanks to new initiatives the FIDO Alliance announced on Monday.

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[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 63 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (23 children)

Literally just use a password manager and 2/MFA. It’s not a problem. We have a solution.

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 42 points 1 month ago (16 children)

Actually, it is still a problem, because passwords are a shared secret between you and the server, which means the server has that secret in some sort of form. With passkeys, the server never has the secret.

[–] Gutless2615@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The shared secret with my Vaultwarden server? Add mfa and someone needs to explain to me how passkeys do anything more than saving one single solitary click.

[–] 4am@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

When a website gets hacked they only find public keys, which are useless without the private keys.

Private keys stored on a password manager are still more secure, as those services are (hopefully!) designed with security in mind from the beginning.

If a website with old-school passwords gets hacked, the hacker only gets salted hashes of passwords - this does not seem to be much worse?

(Websites that store plaintext passwords surely won't implement passkeys either...)

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago

Pass keys are for websites such as Google, Facebook, TikTok, etc. And then they go into what is currently your password manager or if you don't have one, it goes into your device. You still have to prove to that password manager that you are, who you say you are, either by a master password of some sort or biometrics.

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