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[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 2 points 6 days ago (6 children)

This just doesn't hold up in 2024. BMW charge you 60k for a vehicle and chuck a subscription on top. Apple, Google and Samsung charge between hundreds and thousands for their phones and advertise with their own agencies. Amazon forces paying customers to wade through bullshit products to finally buy the one they want, customers who bought prime and who didn't.

Everyone is the product even if you pay. Stop saying this please.

[–] tyler@programming.dev -1 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It’s not an either or. It’s _if it’s free, you’re the product _. That’s it. It’s not saying anything about if you pay for it.

[–] joshcodes@programming.dev 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mate. Everyone is the product. Everyone's attention is being paid for. Every service is collecting your data. Everyone wants your screen time and is happy to pay for it.

"If it's free you are the product" has been drilled into us to accept the bullshit of Facebook, Google and the rest. Get it in your head now: you are the product, always. Unconditionally. No exceptions.

[–] tyler@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

You’re literally using a service there that isn’t the case for.

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