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[–] sweng@programming.dev -5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (38 children)

I'm sure the tens of thousand of dead russian troops and all those displaced russian families prefer that to just gaining trust with others, resulting in the end of support for Ukraine and a quick surrender. Apparently getting people killed is better than doing everything you can to end end the conflict.

[–] yogthos@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago (35 children)

Russia literally did everything possible to try and avoid this conflict for 8 years prior. Ending the conflict without achieving the objectives would be sheer idiocy as anybody who is not a complete imbecile would understand.

[–] sweng@programming.dev 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (27 children)

Everything except building trust, it seems.

And who said anything about not achieving objectives? Unless the objective is to get people, both Russians and Ukrainians killed, I guess.

[–] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Russia was building trust for years beforehand. Putin spoke twice in the Bundestag for example, the goal was a free trade zone from Lisabon to Wladiwostok. Russia also asked to join NATO. It got declined both times. Even when the coup happened in Ukraine, Russia attempted multiple diplomatic initiatives to deescalate the situation.

Do you know who always escalated? Who was always pushing for conflict? Hint: It wasn't Russia.

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