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[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 5 months ago (9 children)

For the most part, I don't care about App Size. Storage is cheap. What I miss with the Signal Desktop App is the option to save everything in an encrypted container.

[–] kostas@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Wouldn't having full disk encryption achieve most of the benefits of that? In case of someone having access to your unlocked machine what is stopping them from launching the app and looking though it?

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Yes, full disk encryption helps against intruders with device access, but not against the files being indexed by other application. My phone is encrypted, but I still use a signal client that is encrypted again.

[–] kostas@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hm, but wouldn't such an application be malicious by default? Having protection against attackers on your device seems of out scope for a messaging application, at that point I would consider something like Tails. Though this may be a rare case when moving to an appimage could help matters.

[–] VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes and no. I personally would like to be asked permission for such behaviour, but a gallery application, for example, could have legitimate reasons to index all photos on your system. I personally prefer to manually set the folders it is supposed to index, but that doesn't seem to be a generally accepted paradigm.

In general, I see why you need to trust that a system your app runs on is uncompromised to a a certain degree, but measures to potentially limit harm in case it is still seem sensible, especially for an app with a focus on privacy and security.

[–] kostas@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

We set the threshold of sensible protections provided by the app (signal) itself differently.

On desktop having a gallery app, as you say, or running an application like windirstat for example I expect the user to understand that anything stored on device can be "seen" by the app and that, if they dont trust it, having sensitive files deleted or sandboxed might be prudent. Messages are stored at least somewhat encrypted (albeit with the key in a config file) so a random (non targeted/malicious) scan would gt blobs there.

On mobile due to how opaque the os is I am thankful for the extra encyption and I would consider it a much more critical flaw. On desktop less so. Still I appreciate your point of view and a passkey to encrypt at least messages on the desktop app would be a welcome addition.

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