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I just installed EndeavorOS on an HP Spectre360 that’s roughly 2 years old. I am honestly surprised at how easy it went. If you google it, you’ll get a lot of “lol good luck installing linux on that” type posts - so I was ready for a battle.

Turned off secure boot and tpm. Booted off a usb stick. Live environment, check. Start installer and wipe drive. Few minutes later I’m in. Ok let’s find out what’s not working…

WiFi check. Bluetooth check. Sound check (although a little quiet). Keyboard check. Screen resolution check. Hibernates correctly? Check. WTF I can’t believe this all works out the box. The touchscreen? Check. The stylus pen check. Flipping the screen over to a tablet check. Jesus H.

Ok, everything just works. Huh. Who’d have thunk?

Install programs, log into accounts, jeez this laptop is snappier than on windows. Make things pretty for my wife and install some fun games and stuff.

Finished. Ez. Why did I wait so long? Google was wrong - it was cake.

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[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (13 children)

I got it up and running but the Touch Bar didn’t work, the Wi-Fi didn’t work, all kinds of issues.

That's because Apple doesn't release drivers for all those components.
Running anything but a Mac OS on a Mac is a nice pet project, but you can't expect Linux to work.

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 5 months ago (10 children)

It depends. I installed mint on a 2011 MBP a couple of years ago and it was a breeze. I installed arch on it recently and the only snag was having to install the proprietary Broadcom driver to get wireless. It runs great though — which is just as well because it would actually be more difficult to install OSX on the bloody thing, seeing as they no longer support it.

A 2016 MBP is still a bit recent, but, as a general rule of thumb, by the time a Mac stops getting software updates, Linux will be ready for it.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I hate to break it to you friendo, but 8 year old hardware isn't recent. It may still be usable, but that doesn't make it recent. It's ok though grandpa, let's get you back to bed

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I can read, and a 2016 MacBook pro is not even a bit recent; It's from 8 years ago :-)

Just a bit of light-hearted leg pulling, nothing to get worked up over

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

8 years is recent if it's apple hardware and you're expecting Linux to work flawlessly out of the box. Maybe things were different back in your day though

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was a lighthearted jab at calling 8 years ago recent; Not a political statement about Apple or operating systems.

8 years is a ton of time in tech, CPUs from 2016 are ancient. Single-core CPU performance has doubled in Intel's laptop chips since then, and modern laptop CPUs from Intel are often 12-core, versus the top end 2016 MacBook Pro having 4 cores.

Not trying to start any fights, was just poking fun at the choice to call 2016 recent

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dude, there are so many contexts in which 2016 could be considered 'recent', including the one I was speaking in, and yet you march into my mentions with the patronizing bullshit. I don't know, maybe you think you're being friendly, but it doesn't feel friendly to me.

[–] Hexarei@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, my goal wasn't to be a bother. My initial comment was intended to be friendly and funny - I'm not trying to patronize or be antagonistic. I learned a couple of years ago that I have autism, so I should have learned my lesson by now and stopped trying to be funny; It never pans out the way I mean for it to.

Hope I wasn't too much of a drag on your day, and I hope it gets better for you.

With that said, a genuine question with no jokes: Can you help me understand how 2016 counts as recent, given the context? It was almost a decade ago, and I'm having trouble comprehending how it counts at all as recent since in tech "recent" usually means "in the last 2-3 years" unless you're comparing to something from a much longer time ago like the 90s.

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 5 months ago

Ok, no worries. I'm not sure how I can explain to you what I meant tbh. The context is that Apple hardware that recent is unlikely to have fully Linux support yet, simply that. It is a relative claim, but you seem to have parsed it as an absolute?

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