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[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I did it in school in rural Ohio before the internet and with very few resources available. Basically anyone can do it. You don't need immersion. Is it helpful? Yes. Is it necessary? No. Look at how many people live 40+ years in a country and never learn the language; immersion alone does almost nothing.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 5 months ago (4 children)

How do you know you're pronouncing things correctly without native speakers to converse with?

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Nice question :) A good textbook should go over the sounds in the language comparing them to something in the target audience's language. This isn't foolproof (a language YouTuber (Language Jones, I think?) was talking about trying to learn an African language, but the author expected reader to speak South African English where vowels differ from, for instance, US English), but it generally works pretty well. These days, wikipedia is also typically a great resource for reading about sounds in the language. Further, nowadays, you can toss stuff in Google Translate and have it speak. Finally, consume media from that country. When I was learning German, DeutscheWelle had a German-learning mp3 series. Also streaming radio in those days (no Youtube or anything yet).

Edit: and for output, the time-tested technique of shadowing is great. Record yourself if you can because your ears might do better picking up any mistakes when not speaking at the same time.

[–] socksy@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I find it funny that we both answered the same question and independently mentioned how Deutsche Welle's Deutsch: Warum nicht? taught us both German :)

[–] tiredofsametab@kbin.run 1 points 5 months ago

I don't remember exactly which resource it was anymore. I did also use a lot of Deutschlernen mit Nachtrichten

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