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[–] agnomeunknown@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (13 children)

Tips may have been that way a hundred years ago but I've been in the restaurant industry in the US for over 15 years, and for the duration tips have been used as a means to offload labor costs to the customer. They are not optional for the majority of people who work for tips, they are the difference between paying bills and not.

The practice is antiquated and should be completely removed as the standard way to compensate restaurant workers. But the thing that anti tippers always seem to miss is that the labor costs will still be there and the owners are not going to take it out of their cut. The menu prices will per force go up when companies get rid of tips. The same people will be complaining about that just as loudly, I'm willing to bet.

As I said in another comment, it's a bad system, but if you don't tip, you're a bad person.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago (3 children)

labor costs will still be there and the owners are not going to take it out of their cut

That's where you're not only wrong, you've become part of the problem by claiming that.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Amen, there are so many places in the world where you can directly compare pricing and see that not only is it usually cheaper when this horseshit greed system isnt involved, but the customers/workforce is happier with the end product.

That said, if you do not tip in the US for servers/employees not compensated, you're an asshole. Boycotting the person trying to feed themselves rather than the company as a whole only makes a difference in that it makes you more of an asshole.

[–] Nerdulous@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes the correct and honorable thing would be for the employer to absorb the costs but this is America we're talking about. We're currently going through record inflation almost purely because of corporate greed. These companies saw an opportunity to blame their massive price increases on COVID/labor costs/ materials cost even though these are only small factors. Yet year over year they're increasing profits. I have zero doubt that if they switched away from tipping systems that they would use that to falsely justify price increases.

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They very well might here. But I think it would be a win. I worked in US restaurants for a long time in many positions and think it would be a win for the customer and employees. Customers, it would be an upfront cost, and you wouldn't have to worry about whether your server can eat although they serve food all day every day. Employees, get to eat and know for sure they will be able to later. If the consumer is paying that cost regardless, might as well codify it.

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