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Should I also tip the delivery driver, and the person who made the product?

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[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 84 points 7 months ago (6 children)

Fuck off with the tipping bullshit already.

Pay your damn staff properly and stop trying to guilt your customers into subsidizing your cheapness.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. But until we actually hold these giant companies accountable, please don't take it out on the worker by stiffing them. If you don't want to pay the fees, don't use that service, and tell them that.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

until we actually hold these giant companies accountable

Got any practical method of doing that?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 7 months ago

Nope, I'm just screaming into the void.

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[–] dream_weasel@iusearchlinux.fyi 40 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I don't think $7 is a particularly hefty fee. If it's a grocery store they typically aren't paying employees to do shop for you, it's an extra service for an extra charge. I think I pay $10 per order from my local grocery.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's $7 more than other stores in my area. And the only grocery store I've ever heard of that asks for tips.

FWIW, Walmart doesn't have a fee for pickup orders and free shipping for orders over $35. They also don't accept tips.

As a consumer, fees upon fees upon tips just seems wrong. It discourages business, IMO.

[–] Paranomaly@sh.itjust.works 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Walmart's not going to be a good model, there, as while the chance of abuse being the cause might not be 100%, it hangs out near enough 100 to know more than a few intimate things about it.

If you're asking someone to collect your groceries, maybe pay them to do so. Tips are broken as a concept, so whatever there.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

Walmart's not going to be a good model

It was an example. Other grocery stores have the same pricing structure, but I have less experience with them.

If you're asking someone to collect your groceries, maybe pay them to do so.

I don't get this. They already get paid to do this, just like a stock clerk or cashier.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

typically aren’t paying employees to do shop for you

The employees are paid hourly to be at work and do what they're told, basically. It's not like asking an employee to pick groceries for an order costs the company extra. The employee is already being paid to be there whether or not they pick your order.

The fee is being charged because they know you will pay it, not because it's an extra cost.

[–] BURN@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think they’ve generally started hiring people to only handle online orders, or that’s how it appears at my local stores.

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[–] authorinthedark@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 7 months ago

i don't know about this place but i know with a lot of other delivery options the "fee" does not go to the employees, it's just extra money because they can

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago (2 children)

T&T is a Loblaws chain. It's wholly unsurprising that they'd be this scummy

[–] KreekyBonez@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

that's a low blow, Loblaws

[–] kd45@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

Don’t forget to check out the Bob Loblaw Law Blog!

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 months ago

That actually explains a lot!

[–] metaStatic@kbin.social 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

are we still tipping our landlords?

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 7 months ago

Tipping them upside down?

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I have just stopped tipping....

I was generous during covid to those actually working, 30% usually. Now nobody does a damn thing but have their hand out... Companies need to step us, not us.

That being said I'm not physically unable or too lazy to go to the grocery store.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 months ago

That being said I'm not physically unable or too lazy to go to the grocery store.

These guys are over 50km away. If the weather was nicer, I'd probably bike there.

But I'm happy to pay shipping for something I can't get locally. I haven't placed the order as the tip stopped me cold.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

Honestly it's not a small job to go up and down the aisles and collect everything.

Though tipping groceries seems odd.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Honestly it's not a small job to go up and down the aisles and collect everything.

I would expect that their pay covers the work, and if that, then the "handling fee" should.

If not, then their damn employer needs to step up!

[–] someguy3@lemmy.ca 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I expect the subtotal is the actual price of groceries, handling fee is the cost of the employee collecting them, mailing is mailing.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago (6 children)

... handling fee is the cost of the employee collecting them...

The cost to pay them, or as a "convenience fee" for the customer? Because there are no handling fees at any other grocery stores, except for a $1 from one place.

And their pay should come from their employer.

And of this is being delivered, do I tip the driver, too? When is it too much?

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 7 months ago

Especially since you don't know the quality of the picking

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

Every $ you tip is one $ more that that fucker Galen doesn't have to pay his employees.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 months ago (7 children)

i mean you're paying for convenience. if you didn't order online and have it delivered you'd be paying for gas and transport to and from.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 months ago

god this is such an american reaction lol, i bike to the stores!
Closest i've ever gotten to driving to a store is taking the bus to buy an air fryer.

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[–] FuryMaker@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Says it in the screenshot: T&T

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[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Is $1.43 the complete tax? If so — how is your government financed? All countries I know of add a VAT of ~ 20 %.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Food isn't taxed. Shipping would be.

[–] Kornblumenratte@feddit.de 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No tax on food? That's nice, we should copy this.

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[–] Garric@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not all items are taxable. An apple isn't, but a box of cookies is. It depends on what OP bought

[–] HopFlop@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 months ago

Depends on your country. Some just have lower tax rates depending on the item.

[–] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

Don't forget to tip Galen Weston.

[–] scoobford@lemmy.zip 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

"Mail delivery fee" implies this order will be sent via post.

Fuck em.

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[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

This is one reason I dislike buying online. Never know when you're gonna be screwed by stuff like this.

I had to buy lab access codes online for a couple classes and with an applied 25% discount code on one item I still ended up paying, tax included, pretty much the same price as before the code was entered (without tax). Online is convenient when I'm buying things like old CDs or old games or something along those lines, but I hate all the sneaky shit a lot of places will try to pull on you.

[–] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

Tap other and input 0

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