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[–] housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com 15 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Why, when I am an anarcho-communist, should I work hard to support the neoliberal candidate? I am not lifting a goddamned finger for Joseph R. Biden Jr other than unwillingly casting my vote for him if need be.

[–] drewsipher@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I think part of it though is if you at least talk about being willing to vote for him due to the dangers of the current GOP you may sway other communists/socialists who would vote third party to vote for Biden by seeing the good in at least protecting from the current social Neo-conservatism within the GOP.

[–] dingus@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

It's not even about seeing the good, it's about understanding the real, serious harm the GOP wants to inflict on much of the voting populace. They want to violently beat and disappear people who disagree with them.

And therein lies the problem, because the Democrats are leaning hard on how absolutely vile the GOP is, and continue to act as though they don't have to offer anything because all they have to offer is "we're not literally destroying lives and setting people up to be killed by violence or systemic abuse" (which is also arguable because they are also not doing a lot to stop these things). So they don't see themselves needing to try harder for the American people, because all they have to do is be like "We're not as bad as the other guys!" Because the Democrats are fascism-lite, they don't actually want to solve problems with policing or having a two-tiered justice system or tax the people who fund them.

Leftists are keenly aware of the danger, and they're pretty sick of being expected to vote for people they loathe to "save" the country from itself. Why is it our job instead of Democrats job to fucking do better and fight harder? We'll do it because it's better than straight fascism, but asking us to pat some dim motherfuckers on the back because they couldn't be fucked to fight fascism themselves and wanted us to do it at the ballot box is some straight bullshit.

[–] TheRazorX@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

but asking us to pat some dim motherfuckers on the back because they couldn’t be fucked to fight fascism themselves and wanted us to do it at the ballot box is some straight bullshit.

Not only do that, but they actively BOOST fascism. They keep using the pied piper strategy over and over again. If they're that bad (and I'm not denying that they are), why in the world do they keep signal boosting those fucks?

Cause it makes for an easy election win cause they don't have to promise anything, just point to the contrast. I.E. they keep risking the fate of the entire world to win elections in a way that doesn't affect their corporate donors.

Just insane.

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