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My biggest gripe is that the all feed is not actually the all feed from across the fediverse, but a feed from all instances your instance is federated with. I understand why that is the case, but the fediverse really lacks a way to explore beyond your walled garden and its natural bias. Essentially this acts a mandatory content filter that I have not set up or opted in to, which I personally object to. I have the tools to show and hide what content I want to see, I donβt need it pre selected for me. Or at least give the the additional option to see a feed of all instances and communities across Lemmy / the fediverse I have not personally blocked or filtered out.
Yeah, I initially was on lemmy.world and moved to a UK instance. I tried searching a Titanic sub on my UK instance, and it didn't show up. But it was deffo still there on my L.W search? What? This is why I think my UK instance is a bit weird despite only being defederated from 1 instance, and hence this thread. It feels off compared to my Lemmy world feed.
Ah, I learned that there's a trick to this specific situation. If a community hasn't been subscribed to by anyone on your instance yet, it will not show up in results when you first search for it (search by URL or !link by the way). However, wait a few seconds and hit search again - the community will now show up and you can subscribe to it! What apparently happens is that your server is not yet aware of that community, but once you search for it with a URL or !link, your server will immediately search it out and become aware of it. This is why it's usually better to search for communities on one of the big Fediverse directory sites, especially if you're on an instance with fewer people in it. My favorite site for this at the moment is https://lemmyverse.net/communities - it will show both the URL and !link right there and allow you to easily copy it to search on your instance.
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Haha, thanks!
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Ah I did not know that nice! I'll have a little tinker with that site and subscibe to some stuff too, hopefully that will get the Hot and Top Day stuff looking a little more healthy :)
With the added bonus of improving the l feed for everyone on that instance.
After I subscribed to a bunch of communities what I ended up selecting as my defaults are "subscribed" and "hot". This seems to most closely replicate the experience from old.reddit when I was signed in. However, I noticed and also read that there's a bug with the Hot code that shows old posts, so I end up using "new" a lot too. Sometimes I even rotate through top or top and all, to find different stuff.
Great tip! Was having this problem too and this did the trick! Thanks!
You're welcome!
It's even worse than that. It's all communities that users on your instance have subscribed with. If someone creates a new community on another instance, you won't see it on yours until you or someone else discovers and subscribes to it.
From the get-go, I've been saying the biggest issue with Lemmy as a decentralized platform is there will be no standard of openes or fairness to which all the admins and mods will be held to.
All of the fediverse is meant to coalesce together, but that could only happen so long as the people in charge permitted it. As usual, the technology is sound, but the human element was not taken into account.
With admins and mods on Lemmy doing whatever and shadow banning/defederating to curate how they believe their instance should be (instead of leaving that up to the users), it will be impossible for Lemmy to coalesce. Fediverse will have the illusion of a massive interconnected social network, but in reality it will be a fractured hodgepodge of fiefdoms under the rule of admins using the tools available to them to filter out any and everything, including the very votes the platform is meant to operate on.
Reddit had plenty of problems with extreme or biased moderation, but the centralized nature at least forced them to operate in the same space, where you either deleted shit or you didn't. Everyone was in the shared version of the same shared site. With fediverse, moderation will be able to fracture that shared reality. The result will be confusion and a platform where visitors will not be seeing the same things to spite looking at the same social network, dependant entirely on the url in their task bar.
Yea sadly the "all" isn't really all
Well if this is what you want then you really need to choose a proper instance that suits your needs.
You can bypass the need for #2. See my other, longer post in this thread. You can find any community you want and make your instance aware of it (as long as the host instance is not defederated, I presume). No need to depend on others searching.
I believe that option is possible if you set up your own instance, which, yeah, is admittedly non-trivial resource-wise (time/money/effort). Maybe slightly less non-trivial would be finding an instance that is itself fully permissive.