thebestlettuce

joined 1 year ago

I'm mad at Reddit so I'm going to create my own reddit that works the exact same way. You can post, make subreddits, like and comment, everything. The only problem is I only have a userbase of 10 people. There's kind of a catch 22 with maintaining a userbase on social media: if I don't have enough users, no one will want to join, so I'll have even fewer users.

One thing that can help is the fact that you have your own separate reddit clone that also has 10 users. We can work together and make our websites compatible with each other and speak the same language. Now my users can see your subreddits and posts and interact with your users like there's nothing separating them. A community emerges of 20 people that transcends the boundaries of the individual websites.

Now say we take our code, call it Lemmy, and post it for free on the internet so anyone can copy it and make their own reddit clone to add to the network. These are all separate websites, called instances, but since they speak the same language (ActivityPub), all the users can interact with each other.

[–] thebestlettuce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mlem looks great! IOS only though rip

[–] thebestlettuce@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah a good Lemmy client app would probably help users migrate easier. I tried the only one on the android play store (Jebril) but it crashes immediately when I log in

 

or another way to ask it, what made fedi easier for you to adopt? I don't think the answer is better ways of explaining how federation exactly works, because no matter how good of an analogy you can make, most users don't care and just want to know how to get started

EDIT: I guess I'll go first, for something like Mastodon I think encouraging people to use a client like pinafore.social or Tusky instead of going directly to the website of the instance would help stop people from confusing themselves by getting redirected between instances. Same for Lemmy as better clients start to pop up

 

(reposted this from r/fediverse)

Should federated social media have a centralized website that users use to access it?

It would be like starting a server for a video game. If I host, say a Minecraft server, my friends won't connect directly to the server, rather we will all use the same software (Minecraft) to connect. In a similar way I could start a Mastodon instance, but we would all go to a single website, something like mastodon.com, and type in the url to my instance to access it.

The benefit of this would be removing a lot of friction that comes with interacting with users across instances. If I, a user of mas.to visit a user profile from someone on mastodon.world, I need to actually navigate to the website mastodon.world to see all of their posts. From here, I lose the ability to like posts, reply, or basically do anything. I need to copy the link back to my home instance to do anything with the content on mastodon.world

This is really confusing to users who haven't even realized they have been navigated to a different website, since the UI is all the same. One of my friends stopped using mastodon because she was confused why she kept being logged out seemingly for no reason. It's also unnecessary friction that stops me from being able to interact properly with the entire fediverse.

If I was accessing mastodon through a centralized website, I could stay logged in while viewing a profile or post from another user, and I still would be able to interact with it. I would never be navigated away to another website and logged out. It would be a much less confusing and frustrating experience and lower the barriers between instances.

It's gonna take a while for the chaos of everyone migrating from Reddit to die down and for the place to become useable.

Also, Lemmy seems to have the same annoying friction Masto has where it's too easy to get redirected to another instance's webpage. You suddenly can't comment, like, or basically do anything and it's not immediately obvious why.

Once again suggesting federated social media start using a centralized frontend on one single website and just let the servers themselves be federated. You would go to the same one website, ex lemmy.com and log into your chosen instance, staying logged in even if you visit another instance.