hrosts

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[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

There's no equating, I specified which things I have issues with. You've been deflecting from those things by bringing up Holocaust, which is a tactic used by fascists. Also saying that there are prominent fascists who call themselves tankies or communists is not related to Holocaust in any way. The only way you can link it is by malicious use of the aforementioned tactic.

defense of ethnic cleansing

When I bring up ethnic cleansings done by USSR and the first thing you do is deflecting by lying that I said they were equal to Holocaust, this is defense of ethnic cleansing. When called out on that, you continued to do so, so I can't write it off as you being unaware of what you were doing. The moment you called me out on the thing you thought I was doing, I corrected you. When you got called out, you just ignored it and kept doing the same thing.

Russia is just a [...] democracy

Thank you for verifying you don't know shit. Trivializing fascism we go.

You need to open a history book specialized in how fascist systems exist and operate.

Generally it's a bad idea to hinge the whole question of whether a country is fascist on a single esoteric economic factor. Which part are you talking about: the slave labor? the war economy? You're a bit word salad-y there.

What “tankie community” lol?

The one which decided to come out on me with your fascist deflections. Or the same which keep calling Ukrainians Nazis, following the same propaganda tactic used in the War on Terror. The same from which fascists like Haz, Maupin, and Hinkle sprouted and got popular in. Or the same which tried to do whataboutism when I brought up Russian genocidal policies on trans people around a month ago. Those which pretend that created via a Nazi coup DNR is actually an embattled Russian minority defending itself and not a blatant puppet-state. The one that tried to justify Russian invasion to me countless of times, the one that parroted Russian narratives on Bucha. What I'm doing here is basically describing my every second interaction with tankies to you.

Obviously there's not a single community, but there are large nodes, and even if there were none, this wouldn't mean the patterns of behavior can't be criticized.

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is double genocide theory in the room with us now? Why do you keep bringing this irrelevant shit up? How do some fucks equivocating USSR and Nazi Germany relate to the repackaged Russian fascist propaganda I see coming daily from the tankie community? How does it justify the defense of ethnic cleansing you've engaged in this conversation? A whole bunch of people sharing community with you came out of woodwork to lie about me the moment I mention the really bad fucking things I see daily among people like you. You all lie, you reframe my words into something entirely different, you keep bringing stuff from time periods completely unrelated to the fucked up shit I see in front of me. My original message had nothing to do with neither USSR nor Nazi Germany, it's you who decided to push the conversation towards "successful communists" and the DGT. I see the same fascist tactics of deflection as I'd see from Nazis or Israel apartheid supporters. "Oh, you've criticized our fascist behavior? But we've suffered greatly from Nazis, so it's you who's the real fascist actually". Your offense should be directed towards yourself internalizing fascist tactics and not me calling you out on them.

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

This is literally the gaslighter tactic. The moment you call out the behavior you're framed as the unstable one. I think I've made it clear that you're either wrong about the meaning of my words or you're actively lying about them, which I think is the most probable here as you keep being a POS about all of this. If you think there is a literal one-to-one correlation between the article and my words, you could've shown it to me hours ago. You didn't. I did read the article, it's not there. You keep pushing your bullshit without elaborating, so yeah, you're a troll.

One last try before I block you and go with my day, this is not productive at all.

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Okay so not letting myself being gaslit by bad faith actors is digging my heels in I got it. Fuck off troll

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Fuck off you gaslighting fascist pig, losing ancestors to Holocaust doesn't prevent you from being a fascist POS which you proved enough to me already. I have zero respect for you as you keep lying about my words without a pause and kept deflecting criticisms of fascist behavior and ethnic cleansings by deceptively framing my position as something it is not. Which is the same egregious thing fascist supporters of Israeli apartheid are known for. Fuck off and go deport Kalmyks or whatever your favourite hobby is

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Okay, so you're just being a troll, I got it. Come back when you decide to stop being a gaslighting piece of shit

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Cope you fascist pig

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Fuck you you fascist piece of shit. I'm not entertaining your deflections no more.

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

You're a doodoo

[–] hrosts@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It all comes down to ego

EDIT: I've made myself clear what I was talking about. The context was there, you were the first one to bring up the 20th century people. I could take some responsibility as the term is vague, but too many of you went for the dunks and posturing, making up shit about what I meant on the fly. The problem that truth here is relative and if enough of you decide that is what happened, whatever context I had in mind wouldn't matter. It's easy to be cynical about the whole interaction for both of us. Also good for the ego, as being wrong hurts and we all know it. I'm off to bed, will see if you add something else here later. It wasn't nice to talk to you, bye.

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