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[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are not reading my comments. The closures did not reduce deaths/infections by enough to justify having them, that is the argument.

[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I feel like you only read half my comment each time.

You will always reach a point of diminishing marginal returns with measures taken, and you have to evaluate the impact of the measure against it's effectiveness.

The argument is that school closures likely did not contribute sufficiently to justify their extent of implementation, meaning you probably would have wanted a few more people dying to avoid the shortfalls in children's education and socialisation that you have now. The ends, in retrospective, arguably did not justify the means.

[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I mean, comparing countries with it's peers is what you should do. I could also have taken Argentina, Bulgaria, or Russia, but at the end you'll see that Germany did fairly well.

I think the question is somewhere how much death we accept against the impact of avoiding it. In this case, as I said before, there seems increasingly the opinion that school closures as a measure did not have the impact that justified its extent of use.

[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

They don't say that. They said the extent of closures was inappropriate for the severity of the pandemic and the role of schools.

And Germany did quite well during COVID, per capita deaths are far lower than, for example, in the US, UK, Italy, or France.

[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (11 children)

Not sure about other countries, but at least in Europe we had quite a few comments, including by health officials, that the school closures should not have been done and upheld to the extent that they were.

And I agree, the impact on learning and children's mental health was not justified by the real or potential dangers of the pandemic imho

Edit: One comment from the German Health Minister here, describing prolonged school closures as a mistake

[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the fresh news of the day lol

But seems like Lemmy has some issues in general with the sorting algorithm right now, I've seen quite a lot of old stuff in Hot recently

[–] arbitrary@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess it raises a fundamental question: If not ads, what else would Facebook male money off? Running the operations is costly and something has to pay for it.

I am aware that Norways ban is temporary (and I'm hella glad that at least the EU/European countries stand up to big tech on data security), but just not allowing the use of user data will probably not work as a solution.

Wikipedia's model sounds nice, but the cost of operations are by magnitudes different. I think it's a question that will also affect other platforms (like it did affect reddit and will affect Lemmy at some point).